Witch Game 5 - The Anniversary

[Fippe94]

Well I meant that Stanleys killer entered the room *immediately* after Natalie had left.

[Fippe94]

And here comes some more to keep you occupied:

The killer entered through the window, hid inside the room until we had been there, and then sneaked out.

The killer entered through a secret passage, hid inside the room until we had been there, and then sneaked out.

The killer entered through the window, hid inside the room for the rest of the game.

The killer entered through a secret passage, hid inside the room for the rest of the game.

[Submachine]

Question: Can he guestroom doors be locked from the inside? If yes, do you need a key?

It's not a relevant mechanic in the story, so I didn't really think about this when making the mystery. Let's say that guestroom doors can only be CLOSED from the inside, and when the doors are closed, they automatically LOCK.

And here comes some more to keep you occupied:

The killer entered through the window, hid inside the room until we had been there, and then sneaked out.

The killer entered through a secret passage, hid inside the room until we had been there, and then sneaked out.

The killer entered through the window, hid inside the room for the rest of the game.

The killer entered through a secret passage, hid inside the room for the rest of the game.

When you and lady Natalie entered Stanley's guestroom, noone was hiding inside.

Well I meant that Stanleys killer entered the room *immediately* after Natalie had left.

How exactly though? Would Natalie and the killer pass through the doorway at the same time while they are switching positions?

[Submachine]

Natalie unlocked the door to Stanley's room and entered it and then left. Stanley's killer entered the room, killed Stanley, left the room, and Natalie locked the door

Stanley wouldn't have left his door open after he was left alone. He needed some creative time alone to work on his next movie.

After a small conversation in chat, I'd like to give a different red truth to this. I'd replace the old red truth with this new one:

Before Stanley died, Natalie didn't let any killers in his room.

[Fippe94]

[16:23:08] ‹Fippe94› Anyone who opens the door must go through it
[16:23:22] ‹Fippe94› Because of the deal with the keys, only Natalie could have unlocked the door
[16:23:30] ‹Fippe94› Natalie did not kill Stanley
[16:23:46] ‹Fippe94› Only one person + stanley was in the room at the same time
[16:23:57] ‹Fippe94› The door cannot stay open for long
[16:24:34] ‹Fippe94› And so if my blue truth gets propely countered, it is thus impossible for the killer to have entered through the door <---- It just did get countered

[Submachine]

I'll list the corresponding red truths for better overview.

[16:23:08] ‹Fippe94› Anyone who opens the door must go through it
During the story, anyone who unlocked a guestroom from the outside with a relevant key then proceeded to enter said guestroom, while still holding said relevant key.

[16:23:22] ‹Fippe94› Because of the deal with the keys, only Natalie could have unlocked the door
Which red truth does this refer to?

[16:23:30] ‹Fippe94› Natalie did not kill Stanley
Natalie didn't kill Stanley.

[16:23:46] ‹Fippe94› Only one person + stanley was in the room at the same time
Between Stanley's death and his door being unlocked for the last time before his death, there were no more than 2 people (including him) in his guestroom at the same time.

[16:23:57] ‹Fippe94› The door cannot stay open for long
I overwrote this truth. Nevermind. It's a valid point again.
Stanley wouldn't have left his door open after he was left alone.

[16:24:34] ‹Fippe94› And so if my blue truth gets propely countered, it is thus impossible for the killer to have entered through the door <---- It just did get countered
The points are not connecting properly yet, but if you can refer to them with continuous text and fill in the hole(s) that I wrote with yellow, then I'll give a straight red truth in exchange.

[Submachine]

I'm putting this red truth back, because it's still valid and I already said it, so I can't really take it back:

Stanley wouldn't have left his door open after he was left alone. He needed some creative time alone to work on his next movie.

[Submachine]

Here is an example of what I expect. Let's say that you have the following, imaginary (red) truths:

• There are only zombies, humans and elves in Narnia.
• Carlos was killed by someone who is not the same race as him.
• Zombies didn't enter the room where Carlos died.
• When Carlos died, his killer was in the same room as him.
• Carlos is a human. He died in Narnia.

If you give the following logical breakdown:

"Carlos was killed by someone who is not the same race as him."
This truth shows us that Carlos' cause of death was being killed by another person. So it was not an accident, suicide, poisoning or passively being trapped.
"Carlos is a human. He died in Narnia." + "There are only zombies, humans and elves in Narnia."
These 2 truths combined with the first one show that Carlos as a human couldn't be killed by a human, because he was killed by a different race as him. From all the available creatures in the area, it could be only elves or zombies.
"When Carlos died, his killer was in the same room as him." + "Zombies didn't enter the room where Carlos died."
And finally these 2 truths together show that the killer had to be in the same room, but there were no zombies in the room at any time. Therefore, the killer had to be an elf.

As a result, I'd evaluate your reasoning and if you nailed it (AKA reasoning was fair enough), I'd give you a direct bonus truth:

• Carlos was killed by an elf.

[Submachine]

Another week passed. Is the human team ready for another round?

Eh, you guys get something new, but it won't be for free. In exchange, you get a deadline to finish all mysteries, except maybe one, which you can skip.

Stanley's killer didn't enter his room through the guestroom door.

[Fippe94]

Someone entered Stanleys room through the window, killed Stanley, then Natalie unlocked the door, entered the room, Stanley's killer exited the room together with Natalie thorugh the door.

[Kuroaitou]

For Simon's:

Simon's murderer had entered his office through the window, killed Simon, then closed the window/removed any clues that would lead someone to suspect that the killer entered through that passageway. Another person then unlocked Simon's office from the outside with a relevant key, and then, the killer exited the room, and the door was then locked afterwards from the outside by the other person.

[Submachine]

I was on a tour today, so I apologize for only reacting now.
Let me fix that real quick.

Someone entered Stanleys room through the window, killed Stanley, then Natalie unlocked the door, entered the room, Stanley's killer exited the room together with Natalie thorugh the door.

Natalie didn't let any killers in or out of Stanley's room before you found him.

Simon's murderer had entered his office through the window, killed Simon, then closed the window/removed any clues that would lead someone to suspect that the killer entered through that passageway. Another person then unlocked Simon's office from the outside with a relevant key, and then, the killer exited the room, and the door was then locked afterwards from the outside by the other person.

It was clever how you avoided all previous red truths up until the last 2 words. This previous truth however modifies your truth a bit:

Between Simon's death and Alfred unlocking the office door, only Simon, a witch or Simon's killer could lock the door from the outside with a relevant key.

The modified red truth would require Simon's killer to lock the door, but that is prevented by this truth:

If Simon was killed, his killer didn't receive any new keys between first exiting Simon's office after his murder and you finding Simon's body.

You seem to be in a stalemate with Simon's mystery. I don't want to unnecessary elongate the real challenge, so I might just exclude a major option right away.

Simon's office doesn't have any windows.

It will be challenging enough without this extra distraction.

To avoid further unnecessary distractions, let me get this out of the way too:

Only Alfred's "dark room" mystery involved secret passages.