Witch Game 5 - The Anniversary

[Submachine]

If Simon was killed, his killer didn't receive any new keys between first exiting Simon's office after his murder and you finding Simon's body.

Between Simon's death and Alfred unlocking the office door, only Simon, a witch or Simon's killer could lock the door from the outside with a relevant key.

During your time inside the office, only those people left who you saw entering.

You didn't see anyone else - apart from you and Natalie - get close enough to Simon to kill him and no ranged weapons were used during your time inside the office to your knowledge.
Natalie didn't kill Simon before you checked his pulse.

A passage counts to be a secret passage if you (sir Donovan) didn't know about its existence throughout the story.

[Kuroaitou]

Let's play.


The murderer managed to enter through the window of the landlord's office before killing Simon. After killing him, he exited out the Office door normally - to restore it back to its locked state, any other person with a master's key may have simply relocked it.

AND/OR:

A master key was left lying outside the door of the Office. The murderer used this key to lock the door from the outside, thus ignoring the red truth about any key being carried through the office.

Alfred's master key had a copy; either Alfred used the copy to open the Office, or his original key, while the other one was used by the murderer.

EDIT: Addition-

Simon was choked to death by the use of a rope, wire, gloved hands, or (if we did not see signs of trauma), a plastic bag or cloth.

[Submachine]

"Welcome to the party, Kuro." - greeted you the witch. She was finally not bored again.

The murderer managed to enter through the window of the landlord's office before killing Simon. After killing him, he exited out the Office door normally - to restore it back to its locked state, any other person with a master's key may have simply relocked it.

Nice one. Though without your next truths, you need to make this truth fit with these 3 red truths:

Before Alfred opened the office door, keys that were able to open it were not taken outside through the office door by anyone who already committed murder during the story.

If Simon was killed, his killer didn't receive any new keys between first exiting Simon's office after his murder and you finding Simon's body.

Between Simon's death and Alfred unlocking the office door, only Simon, a witch or Simon's killer could lock the door from the outside with a relevant key.

A master key was left lying outside the door of the Office. The murderer used this key to lock the door from the outside, thus ignoring the red truth about any key being carried through the office.

But then again:

If Simon was killed, his killer didn't receive any new keys between first exiting Simon's office after his murder and you finding Simon's body.

Alfred's master key had a copy; either Alfred used the copy to open the Office, or his original key, while the other one was used by the murderer.

Blue truth incomplete. Even if there is a second masterkey, it doesn't explain how the murder was done to fit the previous red truths.

Simon was choked to death by the use of a rope, wire, gloved hands, or (if we did not see signs of trauma), a plastic bag or cloth.

Blue truth incomplete again. Was the killer inside or outside of the office when the death happened?

[Kuroaitou]

"Welcome to the party, Kuro." - greeted you the witch. She was finally not bored again.

The murderer managed to enter through the window of the landlord's office before killing Simon. After killing him, he exited out the Office door normally - to restore it back to its locked state, any other person with a master's key may have simply relocked it.

Nice one. Though without your next truths, you need to make this truth fit with these 3 red truths:

Before Alfred opened the office door, keys that were able to open it were not taken outside through the office door by anyone who already committed murder during the story.

If Simon was killed, his killer didn't receive any new keys between first exiting Simon's office after his murder and you finding Simon's body.

Between Simon's death and Alfred unlocking the office door, only Simon, a witch or Simon's killer could lock the door from the outside with a relevant key.

A master key was left lying outside the door of the Office. The murderer used this key to lock the door from the outside, thus ignoring the red truth about any key being carried through the office.

But then again:

If Simon was killed, his killer didn't receive any new keys between first exiting Simon's office after his murder and you finding Simon's body.

Alfred's master key had a copy; either Alfred used the copy to open the Office, or his original key, while the other one was used by the murderer.

Blue truth incomplete. Even if there is a second masterkey, it doesn't explain how the murder was done to fit the previous red truths.

Simon was choked to death by the use of a rope, wire, gloved hands, or (if we did not see signs of trauma), a plastic bag or cloth.

Blue truth incomplete again. Was the killer inside or outside of the office when the death happened?

So uh... do I copy and paste then?


The murderer managed to enter through the window of the landlord's office before killing Simon. Simon was most likely choked to death by the use of a rope, wire, gloved hands, or (if we did not see signs of trauma), a plastic bag or cloth. After killing him inside the office, the murderer exited out the Office door via a master key; Alfred's master key had a copy; either Alfred used the copy to open the Office, or his original key, while the other one was used by the murderer normally to restore it back to its locked state. The key that was carried by the murderer (Alfred's original, or Alfred's copy) was the only key that the murderer had.

[EvaRia]

The door operates using a twist lock. The murderer entered the room while it was open, killed Simon, then set the twist lock. He left the room through the open door then closed it, locking the door behind him.

This also works with an autolocking door, or any other methods that can lock a door without the use of a key. It's not strange to assume that the landlord's office would have a door with such capabilities.

[Submachine]

For Kuro: A killer could open the door from inside with a masterkey, but if they exit through the office door, they have to leave any relevant keys inside (relevant key = keys that are able to open the door in question), as this truth shows:

Before Alfred opened the office door, keys that were able to open it were not taken outside through the office door by anyone who already committed murder during the story.

But then how was the door closed by a masterkey or by a copy? We still have this one:

Between Simon's death and Alfred unlocking the office door, only Simon, a witch or Simon's killer could lock the door from the outside with a relevant key.

If the killer left through the office door, they shouldn't have any key on them. And this is where things get tricky if we count this truth:

If Simon was killed, his killer didn't receive any new keys between first exiting Simon's office after his murder and you finding Simon's body.

Of course these red truths might hide some weaknesses that you didn't find yet. So I'm not saying that your truths are bad, but for your truth to be complete, there is still something missing. Until they don't cover these reds, I can't accept them.

The door operates using a twist lock. The murderer entered the room while it was open, killed Simon, then set the twist lock. He left the room through the open door then closed it, locking the door behind him.

This also works with an autolocking door, or any other methods that can lock a door without the use of a key. It's not strange to assume that the landlord's office would have a door with such capabilities.

Approaching a magical method by science. Interesting.

The office door has an ordinary lock that can be only locked from the outside by a relevant key. The only way to lock it without a key is from the inside and without delay.

[EvaRia]

The body inside the room is someone else's body made to look like Simon. Simon killed the person inside the office, then left the room. He later obtained a relevant key and locked the room after him.

[Kuroaitou]

The murderer managed to enter through the window of the landlord's office before killing Simon. Simon was most likely choked to death by the use of a rope, wire, gloved hands, or (if we did not see signs of trauma), a plastic bag or cloth. After killing him inside the office, the murderer exited out the Office door via a master key; Alfred's master key had a copy; either Alfred used the copy to open the Office, or his original key, while the other one was used by the murderer normally to restore it back to its locked state. The key was then tossed out the window, and the murderer closed the door behind them - they then retrieved the key outside the estate, went back inside the building, and locked the office door using that key. Note that the key never left through the office door, and that the murderer did not obtain any 'new' key upon leaving the Office, they simply reclaimed their old key.

[Submachine]

This would actually work. Let me see...

The body inside the room is someone else's body made to look like Simon. Simon killed the person inside the office, then left the room. He later obtained a relevant key and locked the room after him.

Simon didn't lock the office door from the outside during the story.

[Submachine]

The murderer managed to enter through the window of the landlord's office before killing Simon. Simon was most likely choked to death by the use of a rope, wire, gloved hands, or (if we did not see signs of trauma), a plastic bag or cloth. After killing him inside the office, the murderer exited out the Office door via a master key; Alfred's master key had a copy; either Alfred used the copy to open the Office, or his original key, while the other one was used by the murderer normally to restore it back to its locked state. The key was then tossed out the window, and the murderer closed the door behind them - they then retrieved the key outside the estate, went back inside the building, and locked the office door using that key. Note that the key never left through the office door, and that the murderer did not obtain any 'new' key upon leaving the Office, they simply reclaimed their old key.

Not what I was thinking, but still clever.

No keys were tossed outside the office through a window (or any other opening including the door) by a murderer.

[Fippe94]

First, some random comment:
I am pretty sure Natalie is the murderer, or at least helping one. She didn't call the police even though she said she would, and she seems desperate to to keep you at her side, likely to give herself an alibi.

Witch, I want you repeat the following statements in red, if you can:
Simon is dead.
When we checked Simon's pulse, he was already dead.
When Alfred unlocked the door to the office, Simon was already dead.
Simon was murdered by another person.

Next, some blue truths:
After the murderer had killed Simon, he never left the office. The murderer hid and stayed there. The other murders were either done before Simon's, or commited by someone else.

The murderer entered the Simon's office by unlocking it with a key, killed Simon, then locked the door from the outside. The actual key never entered the room though.

[Submachine]

Next, some blue truths:
After the murderer had killed Simon, he never left the office. The murderer hid and stayed there. The other murders were either done before Simon's, or commited by someone else.

The murderer entered the Simon's office by unlocking it with a key, killed Simon, then locked the door from the outside. The actual key never entered the room though.

I like blue truths. They are the same color as my hair.

If Simon was killed, his killer murdered at least one other person after Simon.

Before Alfred opened the office door for you, no murder happened in an unlocked room.