The Witch's Game - By EvaRia

[EvaRia]

Well, the housekeeper never left the mansion according to reds, and you didn't check a mansion room. I think a red also says no one living was in the room (but that's only a discrepancy with what you said "cousins hiding in the bathroom alive").

now if the owner happened to be in guestroom checked by being moved and it is clarified by evaria (if it is true then I misinterpreted the red about him not leaving the mansion) or evaria clarifies that the detective could mistake a dummy for Bill (through "unmistakably dead" and "memory is accurate to the story") or evaria acknowledges that another circumstance for this particular detail is part of the unsolved mystery, then I will retract my doubt and apologize for being too skeptical and naggy. After all, semantics make the world go round.

Your memory as a character in the story is not as accurate as red truth. You are still prone to misconceptions and human mistakes.
As such it is possible for you to mistakenly identify what you believe to be a dead body under the right circumstances.

While the narration is an accurate representation of your memory, your memory is not necessarily accurate. The only truly reliable things are my statements in red.

Let's see how the owner died, as we know so very much about it, guess it's time to squeeze out a bunch of red truths again.

The window to the bedroom is open. Bill entered and exited that.
Replace "Window" with Chimney, or whatever.
Just gimme the red truth saying "Perfect Seal" and only the door can be opened.


After the guesthouse incident, Bill rang the doorbell, the Owner opened, and Bill killed the owner right there, after coming inside. Bill then pulled the body into the bedroom, locked the door and did lewd stuff with the body and will stay there for eternity.

@EvaRia aka Witch,
How do we know the owner is dead? Tell a story of how the detective found the body.

You already know the drill by now. No need for me to hold back!

- Any and all entrances to the Master Bedroom are perfectly sealed from the inside, using the same definition of a perfect seal!
- The only such entrances are the door and windows.
- The door is both locked with a key and set with a chain! A key to the room can lock or unlock the door from outside the room, but the chain lock represents a perfect seal and thus can only be set from the inside!

- At the time of the murder, both the victim and the culprit were inside the master bedroom!


I'll lead with my trump!

Other than the owner of the mansion, no human exists anywhere inside the master bedroom!


Also:

The red truth is simply truth. It requires no proof, explanation, or room for counterargument!

This is kind of a bonus game at this point. So it's between me and all of you, and your piece in the story is no longer part of it...

[dawn to dusk]

the owner had left the key in the keyhole so when Bill came with a pencil, a newspaper and a set of pliers. He slid the newspaper under the door but close enough that he could get it back out without hassle. He then poked a pencil through the keyhole which released the key so it would drop on the newspaper. He then unlocked the door and opened it as far as it would go. He then cut the chain using the pliers allowing him to get in. He then killed the owner and left the room after replacing the chain.

I can edit this so it will fit the upcoming red truth.

[Kakerlake]

The Bedroom of the owner was perfectly sealed. The culprit knocked on the bedroom door and when the owner opened it a gap (the chain was still set) the culprit used the knife to stab the owner in the eye, instantly killing him (as at least the hand was in the same room, it shouldn't contradict the red truths). The culprit then took the key from the other side of the door and closed it, never having broken the perfect seal.

[Fippe94]

the owner had left the key in the keyhole so when Bill came with a pencil, a newspaper and a set of pliers. He slid the newspaper under the door but close enough that he could get it back out without hassle. He then poked a pencil through the keyhole which released the key so it would drop on the newspaper. He then unlocked the door and opened it as far as it would go. He then cut the chain using the pliers allowing him to get in. He then killed the owner and left the room after replacing the chain.

Not sure how this works at all... Even if he replaced the chain, he is not able to set it from the outside.

- At the time of the murder, both the victim and the culprit were inside the master bedroom!


I'll lead with my trump!

Other than the owner of the mansion, no human exists anywhere inside the master bedroom!

A couple of questions: I this scenario, 'the victim' and 'the owner of the mansion' is regarded as the same person, correct?
And also, for the second of those truths, does this refer only to living humans, or does 'human' refer to dead humans too?

[EvaRia]

the owner had left the key in the keyhole so when Bill came with a pencil, a newspaper and a set of pliers. He slid the newspaper under the door but close enough that he could get it back out without hassle. He then poked a pencil through the keyhole which released the key so it would drop on the newspaper. He then unlocked the door and opened it as far as it would go. He then cut the chain using the pliers allowing him to get in. He then killed the owner and left the room after replacing the chain.

I can edit this so it will fit the upcoming red truth.

Please restate it instead. I won't go back to check for edits.

Cutting the chain will break the seal on the room. A broken seal cannot be repaired in a way that will seal the entrance perfectly.

The Bedroom of the owner was perfectly sealed. The culprit knocked on the bedroom door and when the owner opened it a gap (the chain was still set) the culprit used the knife to stab the owner in the eye, instantly killing him (as at least the hand was in the same room, it shouldn't contradict the red truths). The culprit then took the key from the other side of the door and closed it, never having broken the perfect seal.

The definition of a perfect seal states that it is impossible to pass through a perfectly sealed entrance without first breaking or removing the seal. Any method that involves partial entry of the room is therefore not viable.

- At the time of the murder, both the victim and the culprit were inside the master bedroom!


I'll lead with my trump!

Other than the owner of the mansion, no human exists anywhere inside the master bedroom!

A couple of questions: I this scenario, 'the victim' and 'the owner of the mansion' is regarded as the same person, correct?
And also, for the second of those truths, does this refer only to living humans, or does 'human' refer to dead humans too?

The victim I am referring to here qualifies as the owner of the mansion.

As for your second point, even a dead human is still human right?? Or do you have some crazy blue truth that says otherwise?

[Fippe94]

Not really, but if the human part was only referring to 'living humans', thenit is possible for another of the cousins to have entered the room and then died in there. It still becomes a closed room, just wanted to ask if that was a possible action or not.

Not completely clear what 'time of murder' refers to,so here I go:
Bill stabs the owner, gets out through the door, and in his dying moment, the owner locks the door and sets the chain

Bill stabs the owner, gets out though the window, and in his dying moments, the owner closes the window

The owner has a son (or daughter, or another close relative) that through heritage becomes the new owner upon the old owner's death. When Bill has killed the old owner he drags out his corpse, and afterwards the new owner gets into the master bedroom and locks himself in.

Or, with the same assumptionas above, the new owner walks into the master bedroom and find the corpse, and immediately locks himself in

Now, some (all?) maybe breaks a red truth or two depending on your definition, but I have to try!

[eljoemo]

Other than the owner of the mansion, no human exists anywhere inside the master bedroom!

Does this refer to the game in its entirety? Is the owner to only person to ever step foot into the bedroom?

[eaglgenes101]

Not really, but if the human part was only referring to 'living humans', thenit is possible for another of the cousins to have entered the room and then died in there. It still becomes a closed room, just wanted to ask if that was a possible action or not.

Not completely clear what 'time of murder' refers to,so here I go:
Bill stabs the owner, gets out through the door, and in his dying moment, the owner locks the door and sets the chain

Bill stabs the owner, gets out though the window, and in his dying moments, the owner closes the window

The owner has a son (or daughter, or another close relative) that through heritage becomes the new owner upon the old owner's death. When Bill has killed the old owner he drags out his corpse, and afterwards the new owner gets into the master bedroom and locks himself in.

Or, with the same assumptionas above, the new owner walks into the master bedroom and find the corpse, and immediately locks himself in

Now, some (all?) maybe breaks a red truth or two depending on your definition, but I have to try!

HONK

[Mort]

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[BeefSupreme]

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What is this madness?

[Mort]

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What is this madness?

Don't pretend like you don't know

[eljoemo]

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What is this madness?

Don't pretend like you don't know

That moment when you're posting on the wrong topic.