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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1098847#msg1098847
« Reply #180 on: September 24, 2013, 06:56:39 am »
The victims were murdered before the trip happened. The victims are neither Bob, Bill nor Fred, and aren't human either (so the victimes are now dead monkeys)

Since B,B and F were already there, the plotted a nice surprise for the Detective. Before going on the trip, they each prepared a body, so it will look similar to them and stored it in the trunk of the car.

When they arrived at the guesthouse and went to their room, they locked the door, snuk out of the window to fetch the similar looking dead body. Then they placed the body in the bedroom, locked the window, locked themselves into the bathroom and fell asleep.
What they didn't plan though was, that the sandwiches they ate were poisenous. Because B,B and F did quite some physical labour, the poison spread very fast through their bodies and they died later in sleep.
The detective survived the poisoning, since he ate less and after leaving the house in a state of shock (after knocking on the doors and not getting an answer) vomited into a bush around the house. Still dizzy from poisoning and in state of shock, the detective didn't realize that the bodys he found were actually monkeys.


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Q: Does a dead human still qualify a human in this story?
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1098955#msg1098955
« Reply #181 on: September 24, 2013, 09:29:17 pm »
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- No victim died as a result of suicide. I will extend this to accidents, heart attacks, or any other way of dying without the will of a separate killer.
- Each victim was stabbed by a knife. No other method of murder was used.


Your poisonous sandwiches don't work under these restrictions!
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1098988#msg1098988
« Reply #182 on: September 25, 2013, 12:21:44 am »
Maybe there are holes in the windows so that an attacker could escape through them even if they were "perfectly sealed"?
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« Reply #183 on: September 25, 2013, 12:37:34 am »
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- The definition of a "perfect seal" states that it is impossible to enter through a sealed entrance without first breaking or removing the seal.

If you could get out then it wouldn't be a perfect seal.
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« Reply #184 on: September 25, 2013, 01:12:47 am »
How about if the attacker repaired the seal as they were exiting the room?
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« Reply #185 on: September 25, 2013, 01:29:00 am »
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- No method exists through which it is possible to perfectly seal one of the guestroom windows from outside the guestroom.

That's been covered too I'm afraid.
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1099009#msg1099009
« Reply #186 on: September 25, 2013, 02:29:38 am »
Let's test it too, just in case. You never know when EvaRita's taking a loose interpretation of the red truths...
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1099013#msg1099013
« Reply #187 on: September 25, 2013, 03:04:22 am »
Hey, jumping into this having only read the "truth" list from page 1, so sorry if I'm totally off.

Is it possible that the culprit used a lockpick to unlock the guest room doors and/or the front door of the guesthouse?

Yeah I know there's a red truth that says "Only a key can unlock" blablabla, but I don't know how strict/literal this game is to be taken. Is not any tool that opens doors a key?  8)
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1099015#msg1099015
« Reply #188 on: September 25, 2013, 03:39:03 am »
The guest room doors are locked with a sliding bolt. This was changed half way through the truths so it is confusing. The only key in the game locks and unlocks the front door.
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1099024#msg1099024
« Reply #189 on: September 25, 2013, 04:30:37 am »
Do note that we can't trust any of this:

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Is there something specific you want to know about them?

They are relatively ordinary windows. They open outwards (as I've said) and locked with a simple latching mechanism.

Each of the windows is large enough that it's relatively easy to step through them when opened.

They are divided with a horizontal crossbeam down the middle, so smashing the window will only leave enough space to unlock it (as you did in the story).

All three cousins kept their windows shut. The culprit takes the glass out of the first window, steps inside, stabs the cousin inside, steps out, and replaces the glass. They do this for the other two cousins as well.
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1099026#msg1099026
« Reply #190 on: September 25, 2013, 05:13:07 am »
http://xkcd.com/169/
Just throwing this out here.
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1099027#msg1099027
« Reply #191 on: September 25, 2013, 05:39:30 am »
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- No victim died as a result of suicide. I will extend this to accidents, heart attacks, or any other way of dying without the will of a separate killer.
- Each victim was stabbed by a knife. No other method of murder was used.


Your poisonous sandwiches don't work under these restrictions!
The first truth doesn't contradict my story, as the tree boys don't qualify as victims, since per your defenition if they weren't murdered, they aren't victims.
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- A "victim" in this game is defined as a human in the story who has been murdered by one of the game's culprits.
Same goes for the 2nd red truth, but additionally, a poisenous sandwich doesn't count as murder, as there is no will behind a berry which bob found in the woods being poisenous.

The monkeys are the only victims, they got stabbed by the culprit some time ago.

gimmeh another usefull red truth plz =)

 

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