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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1096491#msg1096491
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2013, 04:43:38 pm »
A few questions, not in blue, so you probably won't answer all of them:

Is any of the cousins guilty of at least one of the murders?
Is it possibly to lock a door from the outside (you only mentioned unlock)?
Are the culprit(s?) still hiding in the guestroom?
And a clarification: The master ky is not counted in those 'two keys' that exists? That is there are 3 keys in total if you count the master key?
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1096492#msg1096492
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2013, 04:47:47 pm »
A few questions, not in blue, so you probably won't answer all of them:

Is any of the cousins guilty of at least one of the murders?
Is it possibly to lock a door from the outside (you only mentioned unlock)?
Are the culprit(s?) still hiding in the guestroom?
And a clarification: The master ky is not counted in those 'two keys' that exists? That is there are 3 keys in total if you count the master key?

And I will ask in addition:

Were any doors or windows unlocked prior to our arrival?
Did any of the cousins leave through the window after heading to their room?

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1096493#msg1096493
« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2013, 04:58:32 pm »
A few questions, not in blue, so you probably won't answer all of them:

Is any of the cousins guilty of at least one of the murders?
Is it possibly to lock a door from the outside (you only mentioned unlock)?
Are the culprit(s?) still hiding in the guestroom?
And a clarification: The master ky is not counted in those 'two keys' that exists? That is there are 3 keys in total if you count the master key?

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Is any of the cousins guilty of at least one of the murders?

Of course not. It was the witch, using magic!

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Is it possibly to lock a door from the outside (you only mentioned unlock)?

I will clarify in red. It's also not possible to lock a door from the outside without a key.

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Are the culprit(s?) still hiding in the guestroom?

Ask me all you want, the answer will be the same! The culprit murdered each of the cousins, constructed a closed room, then disappeared from the rooms using magic!

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And a clarification: The master ky is not counted in those 'two keys' that exists? That is there are 3 keys in total if you count the master key?

I will repeat the red truth.

No more than two keys exist that can lock or unlock a door within the guesthouse. One of these keys is currently within your possession.
*There are no more than two keys total.


A master key can lock or unlock a door in the guesthouse, right?

And I will ask in addition:

Were any doors or windows unlocked prior to our arrival?
Did any of the cousins leave through the window after heading to their room?

I refuse to answer. I won't say why.

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1096496#msg1096496
« Reply #39 on: September 11, 2013, 06:00:30 pm »
Ok: There are 3 murderers, and before us four got the place, they sneaked in through the open windows and hid in each of three rooms (closing/locking the windows after they had gotten in). Then during the night, they killed the cousins, and then went back into hiding
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1096515#msg1096515
« Reply #40 on: September 11, 2013, 06:55:35 pm »
Ok: There are 3 murderers, and before us four got the place, they sneaked in through the open windows and hid in each of three rooms (closing/locking the windows after they had gotten in). Then during the night, they killed the cousins, and then went back into hiding

Interesting.

I'll give you some points for that theory.

But one or two points isn't enough!

No more than two culprits exist.

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1096525#msg1096525
« Reply #41 on: September 11, 2013, 07:13:12 pm »
Ok, just gonna list some facts:

The only way to enter or exit the rooms are through the door and the window.
The only way to lock a door from the outside (and probably the window too?) is with the master key.
The master key has been with the mansion owner all the time, who has not left the mansion.

All three doors were locked after they have been murdered.
There are only two murderers.
No suicides.

Wait, just realized something. It is never said that a master key actually exists(right?)!

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1096530#msg1096530
« Reply #42 on: September 11, 2013, 07:22:05 pm »
Ok, slight change of my last theory:There are 2 murderers, and before us four got the place, they sneaked in through the open windows and hid in two of the rooms (closing/locking the windows after they had gotten in). Then during the night, they killed the cousins in those two rooms. One of the murderers had an extra key that led to the third room. He exited the room he was in, used the key to sneak in, kill the last cousin, exit and lock the door again. He then sneaked back to the room he was in first, locked the door from the inside and went back to hide

One question, in case that fails: Is it possible to lock a window in any way from outside the room?
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1096533#msg1096533
« Reply #43 on: September 11, 2013, 07:30:58 pm »
Ok, slight change of my last theory:There are 2 murderers, and before us four got the place, they sneaked in through the open windows and hid in two of the rooms (closing/locking the windows after they had gotten in). Then during the night, they killed the cousins in those two rooms. One of the murderers had an extra key that led to the third room. He exited the room he was in, used the key to sneak in, kill the last cousin, exit and lock the door again. He then sneaked back to the room he was in first, locked the door from the inside and went back to hide

It seems your last resort is using that second key you hold so dearly, isn't it.

Whatever shall you do without it?

No key exists that can lock or unlock a door to any of the three guestrooms.

When you woke up, each of the three guestroom doors were locked from the inside using a sliding bolt.
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1096536#msg1096536
« Reply #44 on: September 11, 2013, 07:36:59 pm »
One question, in case that fails: Is it possible to lock a window in any way from outside the room?

I refuse to answer. I'll take on your blue truth!

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1096537#msg1096537
« Reply #45 on: September 11, 2013, 07:48:12 pm »
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Excellent. Here comes your doom then: One of the cousins exited his room through his window, and proceeded to knock on one of the cousins window, who opened and he entered. Then, he killed him, and using rubber band he was able to make it so that when he closed the window (from the outside) it would lock itself. He then exited back through the window and made the window lock itself. He then did the same with the other cousin, and then returned to his own room, locking the window. However, while he was inside one of the other rooms, another person had sneaked into his room through the window. This person now killed this cousin, and using a similar rubber band trick, he then exited the guest house through the window, letting it close behind him.

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1096540#msg1096540
« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2013, 07:58:19 pm »
Excellent. Here comes your doom then: One of the cousins exited his room through his window, and proceeded to knock on one of the cousins window, who opened and he entered. Then, he killed him, and using rubber band he was able to make it so that when he closed the window (from the outside) it would lock itself. He then exited back through the window and made the window lock itself. He then did the same with the other cousin, and then returned to his own room, locking the window. However, while he was inside one of the other rooms, another person had sneaked into his room through the window. This person now killed this cousin, and using a similar rubber band trick, he then exited the guest house through the window, letting it close behind him.

<Good>. But it's not enough.

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1096544#msg1096544
« Reply #47 on: September 11, 2013, 08:50:49 pm »
two theories

For whatever reason, the cousins left their rooms through their windows at different times. Once one of them left, they were attacked by the killer and dragged back inside. One of the rooms accessed may have been used to get to the commonroom if that needs to be explained in the theory of how the witch appeared and after each kill, the murderer used a trick (similar or same as one theorized by fippe) to lock the windows and leave.

and

Using either access to the guesthouse key given by the owner prior us arriving or an unlocked window, the killer accessed each room (seeing as how they were unlocked at this time) and manipulated the locks the guest room doors so that they may lock but when force would be applied to the door the latch would come free (or another method in a similar fashion to causing a latch to come free without unlatching from the inside) and hid. Then proceeded to kill once the cousins were asleep, then hid again or used the method found in last theory to leave through a window and lock it .


Also, fippe that <good> comment may itself be a lie meant to throw you off the trail by making you believe you are getting closer. Red truths are only truly true truths. Plus red truths are designed to make a logical lead following blue according to rules.

 

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