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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1101159#msg1101159
« Reply #300 on: October 06, 2013, 04:38:03 pm »
Also, what if the murders were done by women who give birth shortly after they finish murdering? Their babies are living and breathing.
...wat. I'm not sure what you are trying to do here, but it's most likely wrong :p

Before the cousins arrived, the culprit entered through the window and cut a small part of his skin leaving it on the floor. He then carefully placed a knife directly above the bed, placed in between the cracks of the ceiling. He did this for the other two rooms as well. When the cousins arrived, they locked the guestroom door, locked the window, and then laid down to sleep. The culprit climbed to the roof and knocking on the right parts, he dropped the knives from the ceiling directly onto the brothers below, killing them instantly.



I'd like someone to modify this theory and replace the piece of skin with a baby.
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1101163#msg1101163
« Reply #301 on: October 06, 2013, 04:53:55 pm »
But there were no living humans inside the room when the detective checked the room.
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1101176#msg1101176
« Reply #302 on: October 06, 2013, 06:54:25 pm »
Plus, the CULPRIT was in the same room as the victim. And the baby is not a culprit.

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1101195#msg1101195
« Reply #303 on: October 06, 2013, 09:38:01 pm »
Here I will list all the red truth I've spoken, for your convenience. Use this to plan your arguments.


- Each of the three bodies you discovered was unmistakably dead.



I believe playing dead is not unmistakably dead.
Well, she did refuse to repeat "The moment you entered each room to check on each cousin, that cousin were already dead."
So tecnically, all that could also mean that the bodies were unmistakely dead at the end of the game

I believe that "you discovered" means the ones you saw. Not later on, but at the very moment you saw.
Most likely, yes. But it's worth a try, the worst we get is a clarification.

I'll clarify it for you.

- Each of the three bodies you discovered was unmistakably dead.
*This is at the time which you discovered each body.

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1101274#msg1101274
« Reply #304 on: October 07, 2013, 08:00:58 am »
Can we get a clue? In red? Please?  :-*
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1101316#msg1101316
« Reply #305 on: October 07, 2013, 01:58:15 pm »
I have a spare minute, so I'll give it another shot =)

I'll continue where I left off a while back and modify it slightly.

The moment when the detective woke up, the kids were still alive.
it happened very similar to this story:

The kids aren't dead and with this, there is no culprit.
Each kid made (or baught) his very own life size dead body dummy. They had the idea last summer and wanted to scare the zanzarino out of the little cousin.
With this, it's rather easy and straight forward what happened: they went out through the window and to the car in order to fetch their dummys. Then pulled them back into the room, stabbed the "victim" dummy with a knife and poured a ridiculous ammount of blood around the room. Then they each hid in the bathroom.

After the detective went back to the house, the boys left the bathroom and continued to hide behind the door of the rooms. A culprit then entered one room after the other through the broken window and killed the boy in that room with a knife, removed the dummies, placed the boys where the dummys were and drove off with his beloved, slightly red and holed dummies.

... I'm still far away from the point that explains each of the three murders in its own solved mystery... a red hint in that direction would surely help ;)

edit: fixed the quote
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1101335#msg1101335
« Reply #306 on: October 07, 2013, 05:23:23 pm »
I have a spare minute, so I'll give it another shot =)

I'll continue where I left off a while back and modify it slightly.

The moment when the detective woke up, the kids were still alive.
it happened very similar to this story:

The kids aren't dead and with this, there is no culprit.
Each kid made (or baught) his very own life size dead body dummy. They had the idea last summer and wanted to scare the zanzarino out of the little cousin.
With this, it's rather easy and straight forward what happened: they went out through the window and to the car in order to fetch their dummys. Then pulled them back into the room, stabbed the "victim" dummy with a knife and poured a ridiculous ammount of blood around the room. Then they each hid in the bathroom.

After the detective went back to the house, the boys left the bathroom and continued to hide behind the door of the rooms. A culprit then entered one room after the other through the broken window and killed the boy in that room with a knife, removed the dummies, placed the boys where the dummys were and drove off with his beloved, slightly red and holed dummies.

... I'm still far away from the point that explains each of the three murders in its own solved mystery... a red hint in that direction would surely help ;)

edit: fixed the quote


<Good>. Your blue truth is effective. I have no direct counter.

However, since the beginning, all your theories have been lacking a single important detail.

In accordance to my plan for the end game, allow me to answer your blue truth with this declaration that my game pertains to the rules of Knox's Decalogue!

In reverse order:


Knox's Tenth!
It is forbidden for a character to disguise themselves as another without any clues.

Knox's Ninth!
It is permitted for observers to let their own conclusions and interpretations be heard.

Knox's Eighth!
It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.

I can only do my best with this one, as it's the most difficult for me to follow.

Knox's Seventh!
It is forbidden for the detective to be the culprit.

Knox's Sixth!
It is forbidden for accident or intuition to be employed as a detective technique.

Knox's Fifth, strangely, is not included in the original story. I will omit it accordingly.

Knox's Fourth!
It is forbidden for unknown drugs or hard to understand scientific devices to be used.

Knox's Third!
It is forbidden for hidden passages to exist.

Knox's Second!
It is forbidden for supernatural agencies to be employed as a detective technique.


And finally, my answer to your blue:

Knox's First!
It is forbidden for the culprit to be anyone not mentioned in the early part of the story!!


I will repeat my perfect alibis, sealed in the red truth:

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- The owner of the mansion is not a culprit!
- Bob is dead!
- Fred is dead!
- And of course, Bill is also dead!
- In this game, a culprit cannot die!

Tell me humans! If not the witch, then who is your culprit?

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1101339#msg1101339
« Reply #307 on: October 07, 2013, 05:34:30 pm »
Well, there is no definite proof that the man they talked to in the mansion actually is the owner...
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1101345#msg1101345
« Reply #308 on: October 07, 2013, 05:48:09 pm »
The old man who gave you the key qualifies as the owner of the mansion.

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1101348#msg1101348
« Reply #309 on: October 07, 2013, 05:52:00 pm »
Tell me humans! If not the witch, then who is your culprit?

Obviously this wasn't caused by a which, but by Satan-sama!



- Only a human or witch can qualify as a culprit. No other possibility for a culprit exists.

But hey, it isn't forbidden for somebody other than a witch to use magic, right...?
So as long as a magician is human, he will qualify as a culprit... I don't think that that hole was intented by you, so it may be filled with something in red.
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1101351#msg1101351
« Reply #310 on: October 07, 2013, 06:06:23 pm »
By Knox's Second, you are not allowed to include any use of magic in your theories.

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1101354#msg1101354
« Reply #311 on: October 07, 2013, 06:35:25 pm »
muses*

since detective is not culprit, and I remember the owner of the mansion isn't the culprit, and the culprit(s) have to be human, and the culprit(s) names were mentioned....
They have to be your 1 or 2 of your cousins.
However they cannot be suicide.
Therefore, they must've killed each other.

Someone string up a blue truth? I think I did before but it got rejected XP

 

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