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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1100414#msg1100414
« Reply #252 on: October 03, 2013, 10:54:04 am »
i will give the rooms labels A, B and C again.
the cousins left there windows open and the culprit killed each cousin blah blah blah.the cousin then stayed in room A for the rest of the night. in the morning, when you wake up and try to unlock door A, you fail and rush to the next door. the culprit however, silently unlocks door A and rushes out the window to room B, did the same and went to C where he hid in the closet after locking the window. he then waited for you to finish checking the room before he snuck out the door and went into B before you got there. this was repeated for A as well before the culprit escaped the window.


the order in which you checked the rooms inside was A, B, C
the order in which you checked the rooms outside was C, B, A

also, did you by any chance lock or unlock any doors while inside the room?
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1100415#msg1100415
« Reply #253 on: October 03, 2013, 11:00:41 am »
You didn't touch or look carefully at the locks on each door when you were in each room. There were other things to be concerned about.

Each guestroom, you entered and left through the window when checking up on it. Since you were hopping to the next room over, it was quickest for you to hop outside directly than detour through the common room.
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1100416#msg1100416
« Reply #254 on: October 03, 2013, 11:08:00 am »
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- Both the moment when you woke up and when you came across each window, the windows were perfectly sealed from the inside.

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1100417#msg1100417
« Reply #255 on: October 03, 2013, 11:15:28 am »
You didn't touch or look carefully at the locks on each door when you were in each room. There were other things to be concerned about.

Each guestroom, you entered and left through the window when checking up on it. Since you were hopping to the next room over, it was quickest for you to hop outside directly than detour through the common room.

say this in red pretty please? mainly last part

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1100444#msg1100444
« Reply #256 on: October 03, 2013, 03:03:03 pm »
Were the windows and doors locked (prefectly sealed) the whole time between the detective waking up and the end of the story?
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1100499#msg1100499
« Reply #257 on: October 03, 2013, 08:39:17 pm »
Were the windows and doors locked (prefectly sealed) the whole time between the detective waking up and the end of the story?
The answer to this must be no. There is no possible way to get to the outside of a fully locked room without first unlocking a door or window. So there is no way to get to the next room to lock both door and window in there.

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i will give the rooms labels A, B and C again.
the cousins left there windows open and the culprit killed each cousin blah blah blah.the cousin then stayed in room A for the rest of the night. in the morning, when you wake up and try to unlock door A, you fail and rush to the next door. the culprit however, silently unlocks door A and rushes out the window to room B, did the same and went to C where he hid in the closet after locking both the door and the window. he then waited for you to finish checking room C before he snuck out the door and went into B before you got there. this was repeated and again for A as well before the culprit escaped the window and ran away.


the order in which you checked the rooms inside was A, B, C
the order in which you checked the rooms outside was C, B, A
I haven't had a satisfactory answer to this yet...
*modded it so it's slightly easier to read.

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1100505#msg1100505
« Reply #258 on: October 03, 2013, 09:13:50 pm »
While this has been pretty much explained by other red truths together I guess, it would be cool if you could repeat this still:

"While both the door and the window are perfectly sealed, there exists no way whatsoever to exit a guestroom (and keep the seals)"

If there are anything we've missed regarding how to get out, it would be clear after you have said (or refused) this.

Or if there are any exisitng red truth which I missed somehow, which confirms this without a doubt.
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1100526#msg1100526
« Reply #259 on: October 03, 2013, 10:38:03 pm »
Lets reread all the red truths and find any possible ambiguity in them. We'll have to continue thinking like lawyers if we are to win.
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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1100528#msg1100528
« Reply #260 on: October 03, 2013, 10:42:48 pm »
While this has been pretty much explained by other red truths together I guess, it would be cool if you could repeat this still:

"While both the door and the window are perfectly sealed, there exists no way whatsoever to exit a guestroom (and keep the seals)"

If there are anything we've missed regarding how to get out, it would be clear after you have said (or refused) this.

Or if there are any exisitng red truth which I missed somehow, which confirms this without a doubt.

I'll acknowledge it in red.

While both the door and the window are perfectly sealed, there exists absolutely no method outside of magic to enter or exit one of the guestrooms without breaking or removing the seal.

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1100529#msg1100529
« Reply #261 on: October 03, 2013, 10:50:45 pm »
Also:
i will give the rooms labels A, B and C again.
the cousins left there windows open and the culprit killed each cousin blah blah blah.the cousin then stayed in room A for the rest of the night. in the morning, when you wake up and try to unlock door A, you fail and rush to the next door. the culprit however, silently unlocks door A and rushes out the window to room B, did the same and went to C where he hid in the closet after locking both the door and the window. he then waited for you to finish checking room C before he snuck out the door and went into B before you got there. this was repeated and again for A as well before the culprit escaped the window and ran away.


the order in which you checked the rooms inside was A, B, C
the order in which you checked the rooms outside was C, B, A
I haven't had a satisfactory answer to this yet...
*modded it so it's slightly easier to read.

In any permutation of this theory, you will, in one of the rooms, encounter one of the following:
1) The window you came across was not perfectly sealed.
2) The door was unlocked when you entered the room.
3) The culprit was in the room when you entered the room.

I have already denied all three of these possibilities in red:

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- Both the moment when you woke up and when you came across each window, the windows were perfectly sealed from the inside.
- When you checked and entered each guestroom, other than you and the respective cousin, no human existed within the room.
- When you checked and entered each guestroom, the respective door to the common room was locked from the inside.

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1100533#msg1100533
« Reply #262 on: October 03, 2013, 11:03:04 pm »
To clarify the meaning of a couple of those red truths, can you repeat these in red...

'At the moment immediately before you broke the window of each room, that room was perfectly sealed.'
'At the moment immediately before you broke the window of each room, other than the respective cousin, no human existed within that room.'

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Re: The Witch's Game - By EvaRia https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51086.msg1100534#msg1100534
« Reply #263 on: October 03, 2013, 11:05:57 pm »
To clarify the meaning of a couple of those red truths, can you repeat these in red...

'At the moment immediately before you broke the window of each room, that room was perfectly sealed.'
'At the moment immediately before you broke the window of each room, other than the respective cousin, no human existed within that room.'


Acknowledged.

 

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