The Witch's Game - By EvaRia

[Kakerlake]

how does this contradict my statement?
the bodies found there belonged to the the kid in respective room. They baught it (or made it) after all!

[EvaRia]

The kids aren't dead and with this, there is no culprit.

Each kid made (or baught) his very own life size dead body dummy. They had the idea last summer and wanted to scare the zanzarino out of the little cousin.
With this, it's rather easy and straight forward what happened: they went out through the window and to the car in order to fetch their dummys. Then pulled them back into the room, stabbed the "victim" with a knife and poured a ridiculous ammount of blood around the room. Then they each hid in the bathroom.

<Excellent>.

If you couldn't even create a blue truth of this caliber, then you were doomed from the beginning.

However, your theory is still lacking!

People really were murdered.

I will expand on this red truth!

There are exactly three victims in this game!

Bob is dead!
Fred is dead!
And of course, Bill is also dead!

Come, show me your next move!

[Gandora]

The kids aren't dead and with this, there is no culprit.

Each kid made (or baught) his very own life size dead body dummy. They had the idea last summer and wanted to scare the zanzarino out of the little cousin.
With this, it's rather easy and straight forward what happened: they went out through the window and to the car in order to fetch their dummys. Then pulled them back into the room, stabbed the "victim" with a knife and poured a ridiculous ammount of blood around the room. Then they each hid in the bathroom.

<Excellent>.

If you couldn't even create a blue truth of this caliber, then you were doomed from the beginning.

However, your theory is still lacking!

People really were murdered.

I will expand on this red truth!

There are exactly three victims in this game!

Bob is dead!
Fred is dead!
And of course, Bill is also dead!

Come, show me your next move!

Doesn't their hiding in the bathroom also contradict the red truth, that there was no one in the guestroom when the detective checked?

[eljoemo]

There are exactly three victims in this game!

I think that's a little narrow minded. The character will no doubt be scarred for life by this tragic event. I'm sure the entire family will be affected by sadness. Even the owner of the mansion is bound to be a little scared that's there's a murderer on his property.

Back on topic though, I've been thinking about how you could threaten a cousin to do as you please or use some kind of drug but it all leads back to the same problem:

How can you leave a perfectly sealed room without breaking one of the seals?

Unless the doors had cat flaps... But then it wouldn't be perfectly sealed.

Am I at least on the right path or just chasing red herrings?



1 more thing:

Other than the door and the window, there exists no way that a human could enter or exit a room.

Does this mean at the start of the game or throughout the game entirely? I mean, could the culprit create another way out the room? If so then

The culprit approaches the house. The windows are open because the weather is hot. The culprit enters each room, sends the cousin on a visit to st peter and then leaves swiftly through a window (leaving it unlocked). After all 3 cousins are dead, the culprit enters a room, open the common room door and uses knock-out gas, chloroform or something like that to stop you from waking. The culprit returns to the guestroom, locks both the door and the window. The culprit moves the chest of drawers and, using a saw, creates a hole just big enough to crawl through on the wall behind the drawers and leaves. The culprit used a sucker/ plunger or created some kind of handle to move the chest of drawers back into place in front of the hole. On the outside, the entrance could be covered by placing the removed material in the space and sticking a potted plant in front. Do this for all 3 rooms.

[timetock]

The kids aren't dead and with this, there is no culprit.

Each kid made (or baught) his very own life size dead body dummy. They had the idea last summer and wanted to scare the zanzarino out of the little cousin.
With this, it's rather easy and straight forward what happened: they went out through the window and to the car in order to fetch their dummys. Then pulled them back into the room, stabbed the "victim" with a knife and poured a ridiculous ammount of blood around the room. Then they each hid in the bathroom.

<Excellent>.

If you couldn't even create a blue truth of this caliber, then you were doomed from the beginning.

However, your theory is still lacking!

People really were murdered.

I will expand on this red truth!

There are exactly three victims in this game!

Bob is dead!
Fred is dead!
And of course, Bill is also dead!

Come, show me your next move!

80 years have passed and your 3 cousins have passed away. Only you are left to mourn for their deaths. They were murdered by old age.

[eaglgenes101]

Um, it says they died by knife wound. Check the red truths.

[Kakerlake]

Let's modify my blue truth ever so slightly.

There is no culprit at the crime scene. Bob, Bert and Fred were murdered last week (same culprit, stabbing with knife).
It just so happened that all 3 hava a twin with the same name as themselves.

So the twins posed as their dead brothers, faked to go to sleep, snuk out of the windows, fetched their dead brothers from the car, placed them in the bedroom and hid inside the bathroom.

sadly, this truth is very likely wrong, as it bends a couple red truths to its utmost limit. should still be legit enough to get a new red truth

[EvaRia]

1 more thing:

Other than the door and the window, there exists no way that a human could enter or exit a room.

Does this mean at the start of the game or throughout the game entirely? I mean, could the culprit create another way out the room? If so then

The culprit approaches the house. The windows are open because the weather is hot. The culprit enters each room, sends the cousin on a visit to st peter and then leaves swiftly through a window (leaving it unlocked). After all 3 cousins are dead, the culprit enters a room, open the common room door and uses knock-out gas, chloroform or something like that to stop you from waking. The culprit returns to the guestroom, locks both the door and the window. The culprit moves the chest of drawers and, using a saw, creates a hole just big enough to crawl through on the wall behind the drawers and leaves. The culprit used a sucker/ plunger or created some kind of handle to move the chest of drawers back into place in front of the hole. On the outside, the entrance could be covered by placing the removed material in the space and sticking a potted plant in front. Do this for all 3 rooms.

I will acknowledge it in red.

This refers to the game in its entirety. At no point in time was such a method possible.

EDIT: As an aside, if you are quoting red, please make sure you are using an exact quote and not paraphrasing. Red truth can be very technical and changing it slightly may invoke changes in its meaning. The human side is not technically allowed to use the red truth, but I will allow quoting so long as you keep the exact phrasing.

- Other than through a door or window, there exists no method through which it is possible for a human to enter any of the three guestrooms.
*There is also no such method to leave the rooms.

Let's modify my blue truth ever so slightly.

There is no culprit at the crime scene. Bob, Bert and Fred were murdered last week (same culprit, stabbing with knife).
It just so happened that all 3 hava a twin with the same name as themselves.

So the twins posed as their dead brothers, faked to go to sleep, snuk out of the windows, fetched their dead brothers from the car, placed them in the bedroom and hid inside the bathroom.

sadly, this truth is very likely wrong, as it bends a couple red truths to its utmost limit. should still be legit enough to get a new red truth

I have previously defined what a "culprit" in this game is.

I will now define the inverse in red.

A "victim" in this game is defined as a human in the story who has been murdered by one of the game's culprits.

In short, the imaginary twins you propose do not qualify as a victim in this game.

[Kakerlake]

Let's modify my blue truth ever so slightly.

There is no culprit at the crime scene. Bob, Bert and Fred were murdered last week (same culprit, stabbing with knife).
It just so happened that all 3 hava a twin with the same name as themselves.

So the twins posed as their dead brothers, faked to go to sleep, snuk out of the windows, fetched their dead brothers from the car, placed them in the bedroom and hid inside the bathroom.

sadly, this truth is very likely wrong, as it bends a couple red truths to its utmost limit. should still be legit enough to get a new red truth

I have previously defined what a "culprit" in this game is.

I will now define the inverse in red.

A "victim" in this game is defined as a human in the story who has been murdered by one of the game's culprits.

In short, the imaginary twins you propose do not qualify as a victim in this game.

This doesn't contradict my statement.
The victims really were Bob, Bert and Fred, they got murdered a while back.
The sick to the mind twins just thought it funny to scare the detective with real bodies from their now dead brothers (the dead originals if you so will).

edit: I'll reword the conclusion:
So the twins went on the trip with the detective, went into the bedroom, locked the door, snuk out of the windows, fetched their dead brothers from the car, placed them in the bedroom and then the twins hid inside the bathroom.

[EvaRia]

One way or the other, in that case, either the twins or the originals don't show up in the story and do not qualify as victims.

[xyan]

One way or the other, in that case, either the twins or the originals don't show up in the story and do not qualify as victims.

shouldn't this be in red or yellow (game master talk) to be proven truth-worthy?

[EvaRia]

I suppose he's interpreting it in a way where the bodies which you discover count as "humans in the story".

In that case I suppose I do have to provide a counterargument.

Very well.

It is forbidden for a character to disguise themselves as another without any clues.

As in this case your twins are disguising themselves as your cousins, this red truth will catch it.