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Re: The Witch's Game 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55644.msg1162369#msg1162369
« Reply #180 on: October 26, 2014, 12:16:16 pm »
Richard entered the VIP bathroom while Terry was right outside. While the bathroom door was open, the murderer came and killed them both.

Terry was on the top floor when Richard entered the VIP bathroom.

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Re: The Witch's Game 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55644.msg1162486#msg1162486
« Reply #181 on: October 27, 2014, 12:09:16 am »
Marcia was killed in the Diner Cart, then the murderer dragged her body into the Driver Cart.

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Re: The Witch's Game 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55644.msg1162523#msg1162523
« Reply #182 on: October 27, 2014, 04:09:59 am »
Marcia was killed in the Diner Cart, then the murderer dragged her body into the Driver Cart.
Marcia was killed in the Driver Cart, then the murderer dragged her body into the Driver Cart.
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Re: The Witch's Game 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55644.msg1162691#msg1162691
« Reply #183 on: October 27, 2014, 09:33:53 pm »
I'm trying to get the hang of this again. :)

I want to ask you some clarifications, Kuro. These would be:
- How many keys are there in the game and who had them initially?
- Who is Jack? What do we need to know about him? What is his job on the train?
- Is the short conversation necessary about Jack? If yes, please finish the sentence about him. A more lenghty conversation would also be great in that case. ^^

Now that the technical part is ready, it's time for another truth breakdown!

Spoiler for Hidden:
Marcia was already inside the Driver's cart when the first murder occurred.

Marcia was in the same room as the culprit when she was killed.

The murderer was not even inside the driver's cart when the first murder occurred inside there.

The murderer did not enter the driver's cart until Marcia was dead.

Marcia and the culprit were in the same room when Marcia died. Before that point, the murderer did not enter the driver's cart. That means Marcia didn't die in the driver's cart. However, Marcia had to be in the driver's cart before the first murder. This means a culprit somehow killed someone in the driver's cart by not even being inside, then Marcia left the location into the culprit's arms.
The murder either happened by a pre-transported item/effect, a 4th person, a penetrating energy-weapon (e.g: railgun, heat laser, etc), or something long-ranged / gravity-affected. Bear my new truths:

The culprit used a weapon-type that can penetrate solid material (e.g: railgun, heat laser, etc) to kill one of the drivers inside.

The culprit poured molten lava or acid on the roof panel. When it melt through the panel, it poured on one of the drivers. The effect was lethal and the driver died.


Please repeat the correct clarifications in black:

When the culprit killed anyone, he maintained direct eye-contact with his victims.
The only way to maintain direct eye-contact with someone in the driver's cart from outside is either through the open door, the open roofpanel or the frontal window.
(maintaining direct eye-contact doesn't mean that you need to look in someone's eye, but it means that you need to look at them. This is only possible if there are no solid, non-transparent objects between the culprit and the victim. Seeing someone's reflection does not count as direct eyecontact.)

When the first murder occurred in the Driver's cart, Marcia was already inside.
At that point, Marcia was still alive.


Marcia was already inside the Driver's cart when the first murder occurred in the story. OR
Marcia was already inside the Driver's cart when the first murder occurred in the driver's cart.
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Re: The Witch's Game 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55644.msg1164681#msg1164681
« Reply #184 on: November 06, 2014, 03:33:26 pm »
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[2014-11-05 04:16:01] Kuroaitou: Every one wins warlock game. There. X_X

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Re: The Witch's Game 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55644.msg1164728#msg1164728
« Reply #185 on: November 06, 2014, 10:12:02 pm »
Marcia was killed in the Diner Cart, then the murderer dragged her body into the Driver Cart.
Marcia was killed in the Driver Cart, then the murderer dragged her body into the Driver Cart.

Marcia was not killed in the Diner's Cart. Also, Marcia was not killed inside the Driver's cart.

I want to ask you some clarifications, Kuro. These would be:
- How many keys are there in the game and who had them initially?
- Who is Jack? What do we need to know about him? What is his job on the train?
- Is the short conversation necessary about Jack? If yes, please finish the sentence about him. A more lenghty conversation would also be great in that case. ^^

There were a total of eight keys. 1 for each member of the train staff (2 drivers, 1 food server, 3 general conductors), and 2 were VIP keys (i.e. - passengers who could access the VIP bathroom without the need of a conductor).

Jack is one of the three conductors on the train. His main job is like the other conductors (check for tickets, ensure nothing stupid is happening, etc.), but he's the only one who has a laptop and can also deal with technical support issues (i.e. - he can communicate with train stations if there are any delays or potential train malfunctions, check for weather updates, and do other things that the drivers are tasked to do (aside from driving the train itself, of course)).


The short conversation will be updated relatively soon. Is there ANYTHING else you'd like me to expand upon within the story?


The culprit used a weapon-type that can penetrate solid material (e.g: railgun, heat laser, etc) to kill one of the drivers inside.

The culprit poured molten lava or acid on the roof panel. When it melt through the panel, it poured on one of the drivers. The effect was lethal and the driver died.


Please repeat the correct clarifications in black:

When the culprit killed anyone, he maintained direct eye-contact with his victims.
The only way to maintain direct eye-contact with someone in the driver's cart from outside is either through the open door, the open roofpanel or the frontal window.
(maintaining direct eye-contact doesn't mean that you need to look in someone's eye, but it means that you need to look at them. This is only possible if there are no solid, non-transparent objects between the culprit and the victim. Seeing someone's reflection does not count as direct eyecontact.)

When the first murder occurred in the Driver's cart, Marcia was already inside.
At that point, Marcia was still alive.


Marcia was already inside the Driver's cart when the first murder occurred in the story. OR
Marcia was already inside the Driver's cart when the first murder occurred in the driver's cart.


Rail guns, heat lasers, and other high-tech weaponry that can bypass solid material was not used whatsoever in the story.

No one died from something that could penetrate the roof (no lava, acid, or metal-eroding materials).

The only way to maintain direct eye-contact with someone in the driver's cart from outside is either through the open door, the open roofpanel, the frontal window or by the use of a camera.

When the first murder occurred in the Driver's cart, Marcia was already inside. At that point, Marcia was still alive.

Marcia was already inside the Driver's cart when the first murder occurred in the story.




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[2014-11-05 04:16:01] Kuroaitou: Every one wins warlock game. There. X_X

I won the game! \:D/

Oh hush you. I have a cough and me working 6 days a week suxorz. XP
« Last Edit: November 08, 2014, 09:37:55 pm by Kuroaitou »

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Re: The Witch's Game 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55644.msg1165001#msg1165001
« Reply #186 on: November 08, 2014, 12:23:05 pm »
The short conversation will be updated relatively soon. Is there ANYTHING else you'd like me to expand upon within the story?
Nothing else so far. Thanks for the update. :)
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Re: The Witch's Game 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55644.msg1165128#msg1165128
« Reply #187 on: November 08, 2014, 09:24:00 pm »
Conversation between Marcia and Patty expanded upon, with minor spell errors also fixed.

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Re: The Witch's Game 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55644.msg1165129#msg1165129
« Reply #188 on: November 08, 2014, 09:35:24 pm »
About this black truth:

When the culprit killed anyone, he maintained direct eye-contact with his victims.

A camera can be used to maintaining direct eye contact.

Can you expand it like this?:

The only way to maintain direct eye-contact with someone in the driver's cart from outside is either through the open door, the open roofpanel, the frontal window or by the use of a camera.
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Re: The Witch's Game 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55644.msg1165130#msg1165130
« Reply #189 on: November 08, 2014, 09:37:20 pm »
About this black truth:

When the culprit killed anyone, he maintained direct eye-contact with his victims.

A camera can be used to maintaining direct eye contact.

Can you expand it like this?:

The only way to maintain direct eye-contact with someone in the driver's cart from outside is either through the open door, the open roofpanel, the frontal window or by the use of a camera.

Fair enough. Fixing/fixed.

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Re: The Witch's Game 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55644.msg1165147#msg1165147
« Reply #190 on: November 08, 2014, 10:15:53 pm »
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This was not repeated in black. o_o

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Re: The Witch's Game 4 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55644.msg1165224#msg1165224
« Reply #191 on: November 09, 2014, 12:57:05 am »
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When the culprit killed anyone, he maintained direct eye-contact with his victims.
This was not repeated in black. o_o

Okay then, so it won't be that simple. x3
There's a loophole. Exploit it for all it's worth!
My 3 game-modification principles:
1. If it ain't broke, don't wreck it.
2. Simple fixes for simple problems.
3. Remember to fill in the holes.

 

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