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Re: The Witch's Game 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54422.msg1143255#msg1143255
« Reply #240 on: July 01, 2014, 03:55:24 am »
Blue truth incomplete, how did the killer escape the room?
Oh, come on, I can't accept half-done truths, now can I?

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Re: The Witch's Game 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54422.msg1143284#msg1143284
« Reply #241 on: July 01, 2014, 06:42:30 am »
Yeah, but the blue truths must still be complete,  I shouldn't have to assume anything about it, even if it is obvious.

But fine,  I'll let it go for this time: No one entered Howard's room through a secret passage.
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Re: The Witch's Game 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54422.msg1143286#msg1143286
« Reply #242 on: July 01, 2014, 06:49:44 am »
Yeah, but the blue truths must still be complete,  I shouldn't have to assume anything about it, even if it is obvious.

But fine,  I'll let it go for this time: No one entered Howard's room through a secret passage.

Howard let Lucy enter the room, then she killed him and went Out through a secret passage
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Re: The Witch's Game 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54422.msg1143324#msg1143324
« Reply #243 on: July 01, 2014, 10:36:31 am »
At night, Lucy woke up and went to Alicia's room. Alicia let her in, then Lucy killed her. Lucy then closed the door from the inside by Alicia's key and then removed the window from its hinges with some normal tools, climbed out, then placed them back. After that, she went back to her room.

Moreover,
Behind the cupboard - where Howard was found - is a secret passage. After forcing Howard to hang himself, Lucy left and took the object with herself that Howard was standing on before being hanged. Then she took Howard's masterkey down to the basement and gave it to me, so I can escape and make me look like I'm the culprit.

If not, then
Lucy went into Alicia's room at night. Lucy persuaded Alicia to play her death to 'trick one of the guests'. Lucy gave a fake knife and something to drink to Alicia. The drink had poison in it, but Alicia didn't know that. Lucy went out the door, faking that she's gonna call somebody, then Alicia closed the door from inside, drank the poison and then lied in her bed faking her death. Meanwhile she died of poisoning while still having the trick knife in her. In the morning when I saw Lucy kneeling near Alicia's dead body, she was changing the fake knife with a real one.

Alternatively,
If the drink Alicia drank had not poison, but sedatives in it, then when Lucy was kneeling, she stabbed a real knife in the poor unconscious Alicia and removed the fake knife.

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Re: The Witch's Game 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54422.msg1143330#msg1143330
« Reply #244 on: July 01, 2014, 11:08:16 am »
Howard let Lucy enter the room, then she killed him and went Out through a secret passage
I have no counter. Well played.
I will give you these red truths:
Lucy forced Howard to commit suicide.
After locking the door to Howard's room from the inside, Lucy left Howard's room through a secret passage.


At night, Lucy woke up and went to Alicia's room. Alicia let her in, then Lucy killed her. Lucy then closed the door from the inside by Alicia's key and then removed the window from its hinges with some normal tools, climbed out, then placed them back. After that, she went back to her room.
No window was broken, removed or taken apart.
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Moreover,
Behind the cupboard - where Howard was found - is a secret passage. After forcing Howard to hang himself, Lucy left and took the object with herself that Howard was standing on before being hanged. Then she took Howard's masterkey down to the basement and gave it to me, so I can escape and make me look like I'm the culprit.
While this is mostly correct due to the red truths I posted above, I will still say: Lucy did not use any secret passage before throwing the key under the basement door. At this point, Howard's murder is a solved mystery though, so do what you wish with  this information.
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If not, then
Lucy went into Alicia's room at night. Lucy persuaded Alicia to play her death to 'trick one of the guests'. Lucy gave a fake knife and something to drink to Alicia. The drink had poison in it, but Alicia didn't know that. Lucy went out the door, faking that she's gonna call somebody, then Alicia closed the door from inside, drank the poison and then lied in her bed faking her death. Meanwhile she died of poisoning while still having the trick knife in her. In the morning when I saw Lucy kneeling near Alicia's dead body, she was changing the fake knife with a real one.
A previous red truth says: When Alicia was killed, the murderer was in the same room as her.
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Alternatively,
If the drink Alicia drank had not poison, but sedatives in it, then when Lucy was kneeling, she stabbed a real knife in the poor unconscious Alicia and removed the fake knife.
Two previous red truths makes this impossible:
The master key was still in Howard's room when Alicia was killed.
Right before you woke up, Howard unlocked the locked door to Alicia's room.

In your blue truth, the master key cannot still be in Howard's room, since it was just used to unlock the door to the room.
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Re: The Witch's Game 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54422.msg1143342#msg1143342
« Reply #245 on: July 01, 2014, 12:03:53 pm »
This is not over.

Charlie committed suicide inside his own closed room.
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Re: The Witch's Game 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54422.msg1143354#msg1143354
« Reply #246 on: July 01, 2014, 01:15:58 pm »
Charlie did not commit suicide
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Re: The Witch's Game 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54422.msg1143369#msg1143369
« Reply #247 on: July 01, 2014, 02:01:48 pm »
Lucy killed Charlie then locked him inside with the masterkey.
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Re: The Witch's Game 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54422.msg1143376#msg1143376
« Reply #248 on: July 01, 2014, 02:42:16 pm »
After Bill left the hotel, Charlie locked himself inside a hotel room.
And for the inevitable blue truth that will follow:
The master key did not leave Howard's possession until after his death.
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Re: The Witch's Game 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54422.msg1143377#msg1143377
« Reply #249 on: July 01, 2014, 02:50:51 pm »
Even though the story states it in different order, the story is not red truth, so

Lucy first killed Howard, took his masterkey and left through the secret passage which was connected to Charlie's room. She didn't expect Charlie to be there so she had to kill him too. Then he opened the door with the masterkey, left and closed the door with the masterkey.
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Re: The Witch's Game 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54422.msg1143387#msg1143387
« Reply #250 on: July 01, 2014, 03:48:15 pm »
There was no secret passage leading to or from Charlie's room.
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Re: The Witch's Game 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54422.msg1143390#msg1143390
« Reply #251 on: July 01, 2014, 04:35:09 pm »
I modified my previous sentence.

Lucy first killed Howard, took his masterkey and left through the secret passage which lead to somewhere. From there she headed to Charlie's room, opened the door with the masterkey, killed him, left and closed the door with the masterkey.
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