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Re: The Pipeworks - by CleanOnion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62441.msg1240798#msg1240798
« Reply #96 on: August 11, 2016, 01:06:49 am »


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Re: The Pipeworks - by CleanOnion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62441.msg1240801#msg1240801
« Reply #97 on: August 11, 2016, 01:09:33 am »
Hey Sanis, we have decided on our course of action, we are able to repair the reactor on action 6 this round but it is imperative to our plan that you use your group ability on K15 in Action 1, and then again on N15 in Action 3. We understand that you may not want to waste two actions this round to help us, but we are sure that getting the reactor up and running is the key to us all escaping these pipes alive. We may also be able to give you an item in exchange in one of the future rounds (we would be willing to do so this round but we actually require nearly all of our items to fix the reactor, and in fact could do with a Uranium rod to turn it on at the start of next round). We hope this is amenable to you and would appreciate a response to let us know if you agree.
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Re: The Pipeworks - by CleanOnion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62441.msg1240806#msg1240806
« Reply #98 on: August 11, 2016, 01:36:26 am »
Using extractor fans on actions 1 and 3 would be a waste. If you go with 2 uses of it, one has to be in actions 1-3 and the other in 4-6. Otherwise you may as well only use 1.

Also, how do you know you can repair it on action 6? What if it takes you more than 6 actions to get to the reactor? You can't know right now since you can't see the pathing.

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Re: The Pipeworks - by CleanOnion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62441.msg1240807#msg1240807
« Reply #99 on: August 11, 2016, 01:38:50 am »
Well I did misread that you said K15 the first time; however, targetting K15 first would still be a waste since N15 would blow everything away up to K15.

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Re: The Pipeworks - by CleanOnion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62441.msg1240812#msg1240812
« Reply #100 on: August 11, 2016, 02:52:24 am »
Unfortunately, we can't say that because we don't know the shape of L15. Unless it connects to K15, the fact that the definition of 'radius' is based on taxicab geometry may very well not place it within three squares.
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Re: The Pipeworks - by CleanOnion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62441.msg1240851#msg1240851
« Reply #101 on: August 11, 2016, 12:36:09 pm »
Silver Emerald is absolutely correct for our reasoning of requiring extractor fans on k15. We are currently assuming that K15 doesn't connect to L15 and working from there. If it doesn't connect we get there and fix it on action 6, if it does connect then we waste one action and fix it on action 6 anyway. So long as radiation doesn't get in the way we can absolutely guarantee that we will be able to fix it on action 6.

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Re: The Pipeworks - by CleanOnion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62441.msg1240859#msg1240859
« Reply #102 on: August 11, 2016, 03:46:33 pm »
Sanitation's current plan (evictions may follow if we have idlers) is to first clean up K15 on Action 1, which should keep it safe for at least the next round.

Once the next tick of radiation expansion/dissipation has occurred (Action 4) we plan to clean O14, the upper-right corner of the reactor.

This should provide a decent outcome regardless of the actual status of L15.

If L15 does connect to K15, this minimizes overlap from the two actions while still flushing out the reactor and several squares beyond.
If L15 does not connect to K15, this cleans all but one reactor tile (M16, for which the Engineers have Lead-Lined Underwear regardless) and makes the immediate vicinity safer.
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Re: The Pipeworks - by CleanOnion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62441.msg1240860#msg1240860
« Reply #103 on: August 11, 2016, 04:59:34 pm »
Actually, go with N16 instead of O14. Megas will need radiation cleared out as well and I believe that location will most benefit both directions from which engis and megas will approach the reactor.

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Re: The Pipeworks - by CleanOnion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62441.msg1240861#msg1240861
« Reply #104 on: August 11, 2016, 05:02:41 pm »
Actually, go with N16 instead of O14. Megas will need radiation cleared out as well and I believe that location will most benefit both directions from which engis and megas will approach the reactor.

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Re: The Pipeworks - by CleanOnion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62441.msg1240862#msg1240862
« Reply #105 on: August 11, 2016, 05:08:03 pm »
Onion, is it possible to get an extension?

If not, we will just take an action 1 extractor fan next round. We can maybe offer something in exchange. Are engis giving you anything?

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Re: The Pipeworks - by CleanOnion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62441.msg1240863#msg1240863
« Reply #106 on: August 11, 2016, 05:11:54 pm »
I agree that N16 is preferable, because I do not think that an O14 would clear L15 if it doesn't connect.

Our actions this round are
Action 1: Drill East from J15 into K15
Action 2: Expand K15
Action 3: Drill East from K15 into L15
Action 4: Expand L15
Action 5: Expand M15
Action 6: Fix reactor

I hope this works, as soon as we've picked up some items that aren't needed for fixing/turning on the reactor we'll trade :)

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Re: The Pipeworks - by CleanOnion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62441.msg1240889#msg1240889
« Reply #107 on: August 11, 2016, 10:42:45 pm »
Onion, is it possible to get an extension?
Late choices don't justify extensions

 

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