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Re: RUMBLE - Hosted by Wizardcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38384.msg489753#msg489753
« Reply #72 on: April 29, 2012, 10:23:26 pm »
Holy crap shared healing.... I figured you could only heal to your max (initial 100HP.) Well i guess i'm out.
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Re: RUMBLE - Hosted by Wizardcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38384.msg489936#msg489936
« Reply #73 on: April 30, 2012, 07:31:53 am »
With RootRanger dead, qwerter no longer has a target... Unless Mort edits targets, he is free to attack whatever he wants.
Doesn't really help me, considering majofa is still my assassin.
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Re: RUMBLE - Hosted by Wizardcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38384.msg491887#msg491887
« Reply #74 on: May 03, 2012, 06:12:48 am »
I'm bad with time.

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117
Malignant Cell 1AlfatoxinAttack Innocent Bystanders B: 11
Malignant Cell 2AlfatoxinAttack The_Mormegil: 3qwerter: 33
Malignant Cell 3AlfatoxinAttack The_Mormegil: 3qwerter: 33
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Malignant Cell 3: 3
74
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majofaAttack qwerter: 100qwerter: 40100
KuroaitouInnocent Bystanders AAuto-Defense: 5099
Innocent Bystanders A100
CalinduInnocent Bystanders B, Mass Attack, Precognition?68
Innocent Bystanders BMalignant Cell 1: 199
KakerlakeFuryDefense: 7777
MortAssassin's Game, Electro Harpoon, Evil Twin, Fortifications, Mirror's Edge, Scientific Genius A, Scientific Genius B, Scrap ShieldAuto-Defense: 1836
eaglgenes101Cure, Innocent Bystanders, Shared Damage, Titanium Shield (45/50)Auto-Defense: 2550
qwerterTaxationAttack majofa: 40
Attack Malignant Cell 2: 3
Attack Malignant Cell 3: 3
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Re: RUMBLE - Hosted by Wizardcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38384.msg491891#msg491891
« Reply #75 on: May 03, 2012, 06:18:32 am »
I object on Shared Healing giving 40 hp. Wording is: "Once per round, choose a target. Both you and the target gain 20 Energy". It doesn't specify you can't be the target (although it should have *sigh*) but even if you target yourself, I believe you should gain only 20 Energy. "Me and myself are going to the gym" means only one person goes to the gym. Likewise, "me and myself gain 20 Energy" should mean only one person gains 20 Energy (IMO).
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Re: RUMBLE - Hosted by Wizardcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38384.msg491899#msg491899
« Reply #76 on: May 03, 2012, 06:34:32 am »
I give myself 5 bucks.
I give myself 5 bucks.
I have given myself 10 bucks.

I give myself 20 energy.
I give myself 20 energy.
I have given myself 40 energy.

You're just as selfish as I am. You're just not as good at it yet.

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Re: RUMBLE - Hosted by Wizardcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38384.msg491991#msg491991
« Reply #77 on: May 03, 2012, 01:05:48 pm »
I give myself 5 bucks.
I give myself 5 bucks.
I have given myself 10 bucks.

I give myself 20 energy.
I give myself 20 energy.
I have given myself 40 energy.

The wording should then be: "Select a target. You gain 20 Energy and the target gains 20 Energy."
Instead of: "Select a target. Both you and the target gain 20 Energy."

By a logical point of view, in the first case you are applying action A to subject X and then applying action A to subject X, resulting in applying the action twice on the same target, while in the second case you are applying action A to subjects (X and X), which means you are applying the action once to the set T := {X, X} = {X}, resulting in one action applied once.
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Re: RUMBLE - Hosted by Wizardcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38384.msg492020#msg492020
« Reply #78 on: May 03, 2012, 01:45:47 pm »
If you are targeting the same person twice, why should they not get the benefit/negative twice? And to me, if there is the ability to target yourself in addition to having yourself as a recipient it should be obvious that you get both.

Not that any of this would affect the current game, as I made my choice based on the fact that it would give me 40 energy instead of 20.
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Re: RUMBLE - Hosted by Wizardcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38384.msg492051#msg492051
« Reply #79 on: May 03, 2012, 03:03:03 pm »
Ya, but you're not Sharing....

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Re: RUMBLE - Hosted by Wizardcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38384.msg492061#msg492061
« Reply #80 on: May 03, 2012, 03:20:43 pm »
I'm a greedy person. What can I say? There isn't enough benefit to.
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Re: RUMBLE - Hosted by Wizardcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38384.msg492142#msg492142
« Reply #81 on: May 03, 2012, 04:47:04 pm »
I understand that loophole and think it is fine. i just dont think it should go over 100. if you start at 100 and max heal you will end up at 100. you cannot heal over your max/starting point. Either way i am dead but still.

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Re: RUMBLE - Hosted by Wizardcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38384.msg492189#msg492189
« Reply #82 on: May 03, 2012, 06:21:24 pm »
I understand that loophole and think it is fine. i just dont think it should go over 100. if you start at 100 and max heal you will end up at 100. you cannot heal over your max/starting point. Either way i am dead but still.

Or Mormegil uses Kryptonite and ends everyone's powers

Except Kryptonite won't work on most people due to RNG.
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Re: RUMBLE - Hosted by Wizardcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38384.msg493057#msg493057
« Reply #83 on: May 05, 2012, 04:23:26 am »
I understand that loophole and think it is fine. i just dont think it should go over 100. if you start at 100 and max heal you will end up at 100. you cannot heal over your max/starting point. Either way i am dead but still.

Or Mormegil uses Kryptonite and ends everyone's powers

Except Kryptonite won't work on most people due to RNG.

RNG is a power is it not?
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