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Re: Relic Sweeper 3 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62121.msg1240741#msg1240741
« Reply #144 on: August 10, 2016, 05:22:37 am »
Hey, it's good to have overpowered relics. It shakes up the game.

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Re: Relic Sweeper 3 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62121.msg1240751#msg1240751
« Reply #145 on: August 10, 2016, 12:00:08 pm »
Well, I came up with 3 nerfing options that I would be okay with:
  • Just change it to an 8-directional Reckoning Cannon and I'll be on my way.
  • Target a 3x3 area, centered within 9 tiles from the caster. You can change Blanks, Traps, Fountains, Shrines and Oceans for any of the previously mentioned contents. You can only summon Lesser Curse tiles (not regular Curse tiles. marked by Y on the map) which deal 40 damage if stepped on. Can remove Walls and Trees in the area, but their revealed content cannot be terraformed.
  • Mostly keep the effect as it is. The player who uses it must announce using it publicly at least 24 hours before the deadline. If announced too late, the item is not used. If announced in time, the item will be consumed by the end of the turn, even if it was not used. Can remove Walls and Trees in the targeted area, but their revealed content cannot be terraformed.

Questions:
  • If 2 separate Terraforms overlap, but the users want to change the overlapping area to be different (during the same action), what happens?
  • If an area is Terraformed which has an invisible object (Pylon, Crane, Wall of Secrets), what happens to said object?
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Re: Relic Sweeper 3 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62121.msg1240770#msg1240770
« Reply #146 on: August 10, 2016, 08:33:34 pm »
I'd be okay with Option 2 if it didn't affect Walls.
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Re: Relic Sweeper 3 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62121.msg1240783#msg1240783
« Reply #147 on: August 10, 2016, 10:35:15 pm »
Hey, it's good to have overpowered relics. It shakes up the game.

Terraformer Seeds is an item.

Well, I came up with 3 nerfing options that I would be okay with:
  • Just change it to an 8-directional Reckoning Cannon and I'll be on my way.
  • Target a 3x3 area, centered within 9 tiles from the caster. You can change Blanks, Traps, Fountains, Shrines and Oceans for any of the previously mentioned contents. You can only summon Lesser Curse tiles (not regular Curse tiles. marked by Y on the map) which deal 40 damage if stepped on. Can remove Walls and Trees in the area, but their revealed content cannot be terraformed.
  • Mostly keep the effect as it is. The player who uses it must announce using it publicly at least 24 hours before the deadline. If announced too late, the item is not used. If announced in time, the item will be consumed by the end of the turn, even if it was not used. Can remove Walls and Trees in the targeted area, but their revealed content cannot be terraformed.

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  • If 2 separate Terraforms overlap, but the users want to change the overlapping area to be different (during the same action), what happens?
  • If an area is Terraformed which has an invisible object (Pylon, Crane, Wall of Secrets), what happens to said object?

A: If the 2 or more terraforms overlap, the overlapping tiles are randomized between both players.
A: Invisible objects do not disappear when a Terraformer occurs, even if you summon a trap underneath it.

Option 1 is redundant and not feasible.
Option 2, while useful, still does two things I don't agree with; the first is introducing a new tile type. My current boards and private calculations are processing enough as is, and having a 'Lesser Curse Trap' is silly. The second thing is that the Seeds never removed walls/trees to begin with, so adding that effect makes it stronger than it already is. Giving it a range is possible though.
Option 3 is not allowed, as moves should be kept in PMs, not made public.

I may add a range of within 9 tiles for Terraformer Seeds, but that's it. There will be no further changes to that item if/once I implement that.

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Re: Relic Sweeper 3 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62121.msg1240825#msg1240825
« Reply #148 on: August 11, 2016, 05:04:03 am »
Hey, it's good to have overpowered relics. It shakes up the game.

Terraformer Seeds is an item.

I was referring to Anarchy. Sub mentioned it in his post.

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Re: Relic Sweeper 3 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62121.msg1240832#msg1240832
« Reply #149 on: August 11, 2016, 06:42:28 am »
What happens if a wall gets put on a tile that would normally be an entrance from the aboveground or belowground? (That is to say, a V tile belowground or a + tile aboveground.)
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Re: Relic Sweeper 3 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62121.msg1240833#msg1240833
« Reply #150 on: August 11, 2016, 06:45:11 am »
What happens if a wall gets put on a tile that would normally be an entrance from the aboveground or belowground? (That is to say, a V tile belowground or a + tile aboveground.)

The wall breaks and nothing happens. :P

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Re: Relic Sweeper 3 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62121.msg1240835#msg1240835
« Reply #151 on: August 11, 2016, 07:22:39 am »
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THE MAIN GRID:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JbIetw-GGrK1G94Rv2-evwYjO4Z9GW0_6S_0iPMRfOk/edit#gid=0




Relics used:
  • Cinderaxe (Tile H13)
  • Reaper's Quill (F7, F8, F9, G9)
  • Honeycomb Shield (+10 Shield applied to JonathanCrazyJ [removed in the same turn])

Items used:
  • Linkcat: Hero' Fruit (+25 HP, +50 EN, no relics to reduce cooldown)

Tips and General Info:
-worldwideweb3 and DoubleCapitals have each picked up a relic!
-Despite Submachine stepping on the same Boulder trap twice, he lost a net total of 35 HP, due to the powers of Xylem Heart (trap damage reduction + healing).
-skyironsword's Crane minion, "Cirno", crash landed into JonathanCrazyJ for (20 base - 10 due to Honeycomb Shield) 10 damage! It has now been destroyed.
-The top left corner set of walls surrounding the center chest on the top floor has finally been opened due to the switch press on Tile H6 (thanks CleanOnion)!
-40 out of the potential 70 relics have been collected...
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Re: Relic Sweeper 3 - by Kuroaitou https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=62121.msg1240842#msg1240842
« Reply #152 on: August 11, 2016, 11:19:49 am »
I already had 1 stack of honeycomb shield, so crane should have done no damage
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« Reply #153 on: August 11, 2016, 11:31:10 am »
I already had 1 stack of honeycomb shield, so crane should have done no damage
Your first stack was destroyed by the O9 trap.
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« Reply #154 on: August 11, 2016, 11:33:15 am »
I already had 1 stack of honeycomb shield, so crane should have done no damage
Your first stack was destroyed by the O9 trap.

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« Reply #155 on: August 11, 2016, 10:49:49 pm »
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