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Re: Re: The RAID 2 - by Kuroaitou (THE TIME TINKERER ASSISTS THE RAID!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61562.msg1227407#msg1227407
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2016, 04:08:08 pm »
Wildflowers - Manuel, Timdood3, rob77dp

I can change this later if someone sees a better action for me to take.

Kuro - is the 2nd part of Fungus Slime "but the next source of damage they receive is increased by 20." considered a debuff?  That is, will wildflowers as indicated by mathman in the quote above eliminate the +20 damage received part of Slime? (Note: Please answer this two ways - one as mathman (ABOVE the three lsited players in order, second as if kirby did the action (BELOW players listed))

Thanks :)

If Kuro confirms the Slime 2nd part is a debuff then perhaps better to just use Foam by Espithel targeting at least Puff and myself (plus another third player) instead of the Symbiosis stuff?  Once a few Slime-injected players are running around we can hopefully be ready with the most effective/efficient way to get rid of that nasty 20-point kicker!
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Re: Re: The RAID 2 - by Kuroaitou (THE TIME TINKERER ASSISTS THE RAID!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61562.msg1227408#msg1227408
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2016, 04:12:22 pm »
Double-post because alerts etc have import here...

Wildflowers - Manuel, Timdood3, rob77dp

I can change this later if someone sees a better action for me to take.

math - It _might_ be preferred to use Symbiosis on Puff and myself (bonus triggered and all that good stuff about threat)... thoughts?
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Re: Re: The RAID 2 - by Kuroaitou (THE TIME TINKERER ASSISTS THE RAID!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61562.msg1227409#msg1227409
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2016, 04:20:00 pm »
Double-post because alerts etc have import here...

Wildflowers - Manuel, Timdood3, rob77dp

I can change this later if someone sees a better action for me to take.

math - It _might_ be preferred to use Symbiosis on Puff and myself (bonus triggered and all that good stuff about threat)... thoughts?

I was unsure on everyone having the same threat, if my targets had to be adjacent based on sign up or not.


@Kuro - Am I able to target both Puff and rob at the same time due to the same threat amount? or not due to sign up positioning?
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Depending on that answer, I might need to target one, and then if kirby could target the other.
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Re: Re: The RAID 2 - by Kuroaitou (THE TIME TINKERER ASSISTS THE RAID!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61562.msg1227410#msg1227410
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2016, 04:31:44 pm »
* rob77dp "Barrages" Kuro with RAID 2 questions

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Another one: Can the same player be Fungus Slime'd more than once with additional benefit? (If Puff targets herself and I target Puff too this round with Inject Fungus Slime, does Puff get THREE actions per round moving forward and +FORTY damage next hit etc?)

Teammates -- if it STACKS like this we should consider finding a way to truly "fix" that damage-boost negative and then super-boost big damage dealers like gino, Timdood3, ?others?... yeah? no? maybe?
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Re: Re: The RAID 2 - by Kuroaitou (THE TIME TINKERER ASSISTS THE RAID!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61562.msg1227411#msg1227411
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2016, 04:38:37 pm »
injections do not stack. you can have one of each type on each player. Because of the ordering math doing it that way would not heal both of you. Which is why in my post i asked kirby to do that rather than math

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Re: Re: The RAID 2 - by Kuroaitou (THE TIME TINKERER ASSISTS THE RAID!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61562.msg1227422#msg1227422
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2016, 06:18:27 pm »
Injections are also considered both as buffs and debuffs, so any dispelling action will remove them.
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Re: Re: The RAID 2 - by Kuroaitou (THE TIME TINKERER ASSISTS THE RAID!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61562.msg1227428#msg1227428
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2016, 06:49:07 pm »
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Just letting you know UTAlan, you'll be putting fabian771 at the top of the list through this move. ^^;

Wildflowers - Manuel, Timdood3, rob77dp

I can change this later if someone sees a better action for me to take.

Kuro - is the 2nd part of Fungus Slime "but the next source of damage they receive is increased by 20." considered a debuff?  That is, will wildflowers as indicated by mathman in the quote above eliminate the +20 damage received part of Slime? (Note: Please answer this two ways - one as mathman (ABOVE the three lsited players in order, second as if kirby did the action (BELOW players listed))

Thanks :)

If Kuro confirms the Slime 2nd part is a debuff then perhaps better to just use Foam by Espithel targeting at least Puff and myself (plus another third player) instead of the Symbiosis stuff?  Once a few Slime-injected players are running around we can hopefully be ready with the most effective/efficient way to get rid of that nasty 20-point kicker!

Injection is considered both a buff AND a debuff, so any effect that can cause dispelling will remove all Injections when applied. (You can, however, use Wildflowers -before- Inject is used). So technically, based on the above action:

mathman gives 'Wildflowers' to rob77dp, rob77dp applies injection, everything is good. Additional action for the rest of the game and added damage to the very next source of damage is applied.

But if kirby does it to rob77dp...

rob77dp applies injection, kirbylover314 uses Wildflowers on rob and REMOVES the Injection debuff immediately. No bonus actions or additional damage source taken.

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I was unsure on everyone having the same threat, if my targets had to be adjacent based on sign up or not.
@Kuro - Am I able to target both Puff and rob at the same time due to the same threat amount? or not due to sign up positioning? Thanks
Depending on that answer, I might need to target one, and then if kirby could target the other.

It's based on position; if the players are not immediately next to each other, then you can't target them separately. Wildflowers is unique in that you basically target a 'patch' of players all next to each other, and if they have the same amount of threat, it's still treated that way in regards to positioning.



* rob77dp "Barrages" Kuro with RAID 2 questions

:)
Another one: Can the same player be Fungus Slime'd more than once with additional benefit? (If Puff targets herself and I target Puff too this round with Inject Fungus Slime, does Puff get THREE actions per round moving forward and +FORTY damage next hit etc?)

Teammates -- if it STACKS like this we should consider finding a way to truly "fix" that damage-boost negative and then super-boost big damage dealers like gino, Timdood3, ?others?... yeah? no? maybe?

What godisnowonline and Aves said:

injections do not stack.
Injections are also considered both as buffs and debuffs, so any dispelling action will remove them.

Basically, every player can have only one application of Fungus Slime, one application of Lich Essence, and one application of Ghoul's Blood on them. This is to avoid the easily exploitable, 'SLIMESPAM', where a player could do 10+ actions in a single turn due to mass shielding/healing effects and whatnot.

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Re: Re: The RAID 2 - by Kuroaitou (THE TIME TINKERER ASSISTS THE RAID!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61562.msg1227431#msg1227431
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Someone's gotta go to the top. I'd put an :earth person there, but that'd only move me down a handful of spots, at best. I'm open to volunteers :P

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Re: Re: The RAID 2 - by Kuroaitou (THE TIME TINKERER ASSISTS THE RAID!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61562.msg1227436#msg1227436
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2016, 07:28:24 pm »
UTA, why not leave gino at the top, and target kiki, yourself, and me?
That way I'll get a big damage bonus for being in the top 3, you'll be near the bottom, and gino will still be the main tank and have huge cannonballs.

You don't have to target kiki, anyone between us in rankings will work.  Essentially just pick the spot you want to go to that's below you and above me.
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Re: Re: The RAID 2 - by Kuroaitou (THE TIME TINKERER ASSISTS THE RAID!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61562.msg1227437#msg1227437
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2016, 07:29:51 pm »
UTA, why not leave gino at the top, and target kiki, yourself, and me?
That way I'll get a big damage bonus for being in the top 3, you'll be near the bottom, and gino will still be the main tank and have huge cannonballs.

Perfect. Thanks.

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Re: Re: The RAID 2 - by Kuroaitou (THE TIME TINKERER ASSISTS THE RAID!) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61562.msg1227455#msg1227455
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2016, 08:20:47 pm »
I'm honestly not sure whether I should use my special ability or just Strike.
What should I do, guys?

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Strike will do 5 damage to your target.
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