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Re: Elements Mafia 56 - by mathman101 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61004.msg1223969#msg1223969
« Reply #288 on: February 16, 2016, 06:19:06 am »
I'm really sad that I didn't get to play in this mafia because there was actually a lot of discussion early on.

That said, the first Nightkill was terrible. I was the single most likely person to be protected Night 1, and the mafia had no reason to take a high risk of confirming me when they could easily take me out on Night 2. This is what I was counting on and the reason I didn't use my ability. This is also why I said I would be disappointed if town lost, because I knew mafia was bad. Kuro, I'm not saying you're bad, but I knew you could get talked into it, so you're bad. You guys did get pretty unlucky with mafia Gravity Pull and the reflected Precog though, so you get a pass.

I also want to say that I called Arum and w3 as mafia Day 5, and I called the exact team on Night 6. Mathman can confirm.
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Re: Elements Mafia 56 - by mathman101 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61004.msg1223971#msg1223971
« Reply #289 on: February 16, 2016, 06:52:12 am »
I'm really sad that I didn't get to play in this mafia because there was actually a lot of discussion early on.

That said, the first Nightkill was terrible. I was the single most likely person to be protected Night 1, and the mafia had no reason to take a high risk of confirming me when they could easily take me out on Night 2. This is what I was counting on and the reason I didn't use my ability. This is also why I said I would be disappointed if town lost, because I knew mafia was bad. Kuro, I'm not saying you're bad, but I knew you could get talked into it, so you're bad. You guys did get pretty unlucky with mafia Gravity Pull and the reflected Precog though, so you get a pass.

I also want to say that I called Arum and w3 as mafia Day 5, and I called the exact team on Night 6. Mathman can confirm.

I have to admit that the first night kill was pretty bad in retrospect.

During the mafia meetups, I noticed that the majority of the mafia team didn't have a 'plan' orchestrated by the end of Night 1, so everyone relatively 'winged' it, since I was inactive (I was focusing on RS2, RAID, and Witch Game 5). I would have never suspected you to be Guardian Angel due to the odds of it happening really, and if you think I'm bad, that's okay: I'm a better host than a participant.  :-[ :P

But the odds were that the Guardian Angel would protect themselves RATHER than you would be something to account for. So that's the main reasoning. I'm disappointed that Precognition didn't create a town formation after Night 1, and the fact that we managed to snipe off Steal and Purify later on was more luck rather than skill (although the Mirror Shield usage against Precognition was truly clutch given MMC's debate with Ana).

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Re: Elements Mafia 56 - by mathman101 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61004.msg1223994#msg1223994
« Reply #290 on: February 16, 2016, 02:00:56 pm »
I'm really sad that I didn't get to play in this mafia because there was actually a lot of discussion early on.

That said, the first Nightkill was terrible. I was the single most likely person to be protected Night 1, and the mafia had no reason to take a high risk of confirming me when they could easily take me out on Night 2. This is what I was counting on and the reason I didn't use my ability. This is also why I said I would be disappointed if town lost, because I knew mafia was bad. Kuro, I'm not saying you're bad, but I knew you could get talked into it, so you're bad. You guys did get pretty unlucky with mafia Gravity Pull and the reflected Precog though, so you get a pass.

I also want to say that I called Arum and w3 as mafia Day 5, and I called the exact team on Night 6. Mathman can confirm.
If we're so bad, how did we win?  ::)

Seriously though, calling us bad is a bit uncalled for, and honestly, I'm a bit disappointed to see that attitude coming from you.

The reflected Precog was hardly luck. I literally said in the mafia pad, "Hey, I think I'm gonna get hit by precog, I'm gonna mirror shield.".

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Re: Elements Mafia 56 - by mathman101 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61004.msg1224019#msg1224019
« Reply #291 on: February 16, 2016, 05:33:15 pm »
While I will admit that getting Guardian Angel on first nightkill was a HUGE stroke of luck, we mostly used the process of elimination and threat evaluation to kill people, and the bonus of their good roles just happened to be there.

N1; Linkcat, due to his ability to figure out who mafia was. (If you really did figure out that I was mafia, I'd like to know how, since I'm fairly certain the only real "scumtell" I did was accidentally word D2D's post wrong, when I had assumed multiple people had voted on him, because I was too lazy to go back and check. I followed the group on voting and made sure to vote mostly with kinky and JCJ, if you'll look to see my effort.)

N2; We would have killed UTAlan due to him being another "veteran" and rather clear, but Sub was killed instead. Blame one of the others for panicking.

N3: We killed Ginyu early game because that's the thing to do in mafia. The Gpull on me to KDZ was in effect because of my accidental scumtell.

N4: Finally UTA is killed, turns out we're good. MMC reuses his mirror shield toward another, and Coffee claims precog.

N5: Coffee is nightkilled, fllooding used. I was going to do a dramatic reveal but the others warned me against it. Probably would have gotten you guys to lynch each other if I did it right, oh well.

N6: Gpull didn't activate because Kuro had a life to deal with, and we NK'd anna because she claimed adrena. Now a Gpull on Kraitou to JCJ to finish off,

N7: and a final nightkill on Nae due to cloak and phoenix being "unkillable".
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Re: Elements Mafia 56 - by mathman101 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61004.msg1224043#msg1224043
« Reply #292 on: February 16, 2016, 08:50:17 pm »
MMC, the first Nightkill was objectively bad. Even your own teammate agrees with me. You should always be Mirroring on Precog nights and gathering attention; you were lucky that you were targeted. I think you took my tone too seriously. You're not actually bad.

Arum, I'd have to look through your posts to give you specifics, but you played scummy the whole game.
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Re: Elements Mafia 56 - by mathman101 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61004.msg1224046#msg1224046
« Reply #293 on: February 16, 2016, 09:20:20 pm »
You did call me as Mafia?
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Re: Elements Mafia 56 - by mathman101 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61004.msg1224346#msg1224346
« Reply #294 on: February 20, 2016, 03:07:39 am »
I agree that Arum played scummy the whole game. Civvies maybe wouldve survived one more round if I didn't role claim due to flooding.
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