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Re: Puzzle Plight - by shockcannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67211.msg1291328#msg1291328
« Reply #156 on: June 23, 2019, 10:22:38 am »
That's for the order, they still only see words above them.

Move your vote.
I don't see a point to this. Serp's not getting lynched today, and I'm not even scumreading him right now.

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Re: Puzzle Plight - by shockcannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67211.msg1291329#msg1291329
« Reply #157 on: June 23, 2019, 10:34:22 am »
For the lulz I'm going to get myself modkilled in exploiting a loophole: Shocks get devoured for guessing the word, whereas there's no rules re noobs guessing the word

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Re: Puzzle Plight - by shockcannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67211.msg1291331#msg1291331
« Reply #158 on: June 23, 2019, 11:04:06 am »
It's not a rule in this game, but better safe than sorry.

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[10:04:05] ‹Linkcat› Btw, sorry you rolled shock, this game seems really unbalanced.
[10:04:21] ‹ddevans96› I make no comment
[10:04:28] ‹ddevans96› will talk about it after the game
[10:15:09] ‹shockcannon› It’s only game 1. No one knows strategy and I don’t know moderating
[10:15:29] ‹shockcannon› Game 2 will be much better, but I think this game has gone well so far. I’m pleased at least
[10:16:03] ‹shockcannon› Other than an afk and some moving around on timing, it’s been smoother than I expected
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Re: Puzzle Plight - by shockcannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67211.msg1291332#msg1291332
« Reply #159 on: June 23, 2019, 11:29:57 am »
I love you for that reference, but seriously, vote serp guys.
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Re: Puzzle Plight - by shockcannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67211.msg1291335#msg1291335
« Reply #160 on: June 23, 2019, 03:52:01 pm »
serprex has been sacrificed to the mighty Otyugh by the moderator. serprex was a noob.


The Noobs can still vote up another player before the phase ends. I am changing the ruleset to compensate for this overlook. From now on, if a player purposefully gets her/himself mod killed to confirm him/herself as a Noob, the Noobs will lose their ability to vote for that phase. Also editing rules to ensure that when a Shock does guess the word, they have to use a certain format to make it very clear.


Edit: Added this section to the rules.

Guessing a Word
When choosing to guess a word please use the following format:



I reveal as Shock. I guess that the word is _________.



If a Noob pretends to be a Shock and guesses the word, they will be instantly sacrificed to the Mighty Otyugh, as the Mighty Otyugh doesn't like secrets being leaked. In addition, this will cause Noobs to lose their ability to vote for that phase. Any guessing that does not use this format, or some very close variant of it, will not be considered a guess and will be ignored.
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Re: Puzzle Plight - by shockcannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67211.msg1291336#msg1291336
« Reply #161 on: June 23, 2019, 04:09:14 pm »
Serp I was just unsure about you. I knew coffee was on my team from the 2nd word, and you knew coffee was on your team so I assumed you were on mine.

moehrpi (2) - MasterWalks, CrockettRocket
serprex (2) - Linkcat, dawn to dusk

Voting moe because he used mother to imitate my word when I said it was going to be mama. Imitating other people's words is scummy to me.

That's not the reason. I decided on my word long ago, hence my comment. But it seems to OK by the rules to give away your next word so I'd also love to do that only that it's daytime.

But that was also a phase when I jokingly almost said that moe is referencing Game of Thrones, which is not supported by his third word

Well, it is just more specific after establishing the setting. You are one of those who could see the connection.

serprex has been sacrificed to the mighty Otyugh by the moderator. serprex was a noob.


The Noobs can still vote up another player before the phase ends. I am changing the ruleset to compensate for this overlook. From now on, if a player purposefully gets her/himself mod killed to confirm him/herself as a Noob, the Noobs will lose their ability to vote for that phase. Also editing rules to ensure that when a Shock does guess the word, they have to use a certain format to make it very clear.

Changing rules during the game is a grey zone. In my opinion you should not have killed serprex.


Order of people/words came up once again. If shocks decided to go from the bottom to the top would everybody know this, i.e. is it reflected in the list? So far everyone assumed that dd saw exactly three words before having to submit his own.

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Re: Puzzle Plight - by shockcannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67211.msg1291338#msg1291338
« Reply #162 on: June 23, 2019, 04:13:26 pm »
I am puzzled about Scibra's and serprex's alignments. They either had horrible word choices or they had the other word. But why was noone saying they were on their team?

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Re: Puzzle Plight - by shockcannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67211.msg1291339#msg1291339
« Reply #163 on: June 23, 2019, 04:39:02 pm »
serprex has been sacrificed to the mighty Otyugh by the moderator. serprex was a noob.


The Noobs can still vote up another player before the phase ends. I am changing the ruleset to compensate for this overlook. From now on, if a player purposefully gets her/himself mod killed to confirm him/herself as a Noob, the Noobs will lose their ability to vote for that phase. Also editing rules to ensure that when a Shock does guess the word, they have to use a certain format to make it very clear.

Changing rules during the game is a grey zone. In my opinion you should not have killed serprex.



He did discover a game-breaking loophole though. It would be worse to let the game continue with that. Everyone who was a Noob could just "guess the word" and if they don't get devoured they are confirmed Noob.
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Re: Puzzle Plight - by shockcannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67211.msg1291340#msg1291340
« Reply #164 on: June 23, 2019, 04:45:14 pm »
serprex has been sacrificed to the mighty Otyugh by the moderator. serprex was a noob.


The Noobs can still vote up another player before the phase ends. I am changing the ruleset to compensate for this overlook. From now on, if a player purposefully gets her/himself mod killed to confirm him/herself as a Noob, the Noobs will lose their ability to vote for that phase. Also editing rules to ensure that when a Shock does guess the word, they have to use a certain format to make it very clear.

Changing rules during the game is a grey zone. In my opinion you should not have killed serprex.



He did discover a game-breaking loophole though. It would be worse to let the game continue with that. Everyone who was a Noob could just "guess the word" and if they don't get devoured they are confirmed Noob.

I don't think I get it. Just don't let them guess words?

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Re: Puzzle Plight - by shockcannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67211.msg1291341#msg1291341
« Reply #165 on: June 23, 2019, 04:57:51 pm »
Game starts
Word Sending 1
Voting 1
Word Sending 2
Voting 2
Word Sending 3
Voting 3

Notes about Scibra and serprex (and some other people too):

Spoiler for Hidden:
Vote me off if you want to confirm I'm a noob & go with 2 of my 3 noob reads: scibra d2d crockett. Mostly unsure about crockett
Coffee's on my team

Players: what do you require to classify Coffee/Scibra/serprex as the MasterWalks noobs?
Dunno about Coffee, his words dont really fit.
1) Coffee has the same word as me.
2) Serprex caught it too so he probably has the same word as me.
3) I’m unsure of Serprex’s logic in others aside from coffee, especially myself.
Based on words alone I see Coffee in my group. But not serp and Crockett but I can't be sure about Scibra.

moe may be on dd's group.
I don't think I am.

Also, serp's second word is of no substance whatsoever.
moe is suspect, because if dd is a noob then moe's apparently on neither team
CR: I was wrong, we don't have the same word
This is how I think things are split up, if we were to assume Linkcat is a noob

Us
9.) serprex - heal, stones
5.) Captain Scibra - disc, moo
7.) MasterWalks - Skyrim, fart
1.) Coffeeditto - movement, square

Them
2.) CrockettRocket - rock, me
3.) moehrpi - game, throne
10.) Submachine - Man, driver
4.) ddevans96 - outside, steps
6.) Linkcat - Mario, pulchritude

Shocks
11.) Naii_the_Baf - carry, walk
8.) dawn to dusk - tilt, strong

Issue: why can't dd's team confirm him? Would make sense then to swap Naii & dd
Also based on CR & moe's assertions, it may be Coffee in your group, Naii in ours, dd in shock. Or CR & moe are shocks, Naii is ours, dd & d2d are yours
(on the topic of lynching) ps next I'm thinking Coffee
1) I'm down to kill dawn tomorrow.

2) Does anyone actually think serp has their word? Same for dawn.

If i am right on what the compound word is, then I think serp as the other word i dont have. It fits perfectly tbh.

I would like to lynch d2d or moe.
1.) Coffeeditto - movement, square
6.) Linkcat - Mario, pulchritude
7.) MasterWalks - Skyrim, fart
10.) Submachine - Man, driver
11.) Naii_the_Baf - carry, walk

Coffee and Naii are a little vague, but i think they have the same word. Link, sub, and ofc myself are the people i am most sure of.
So obviously my R2 word plan failed, since Serp had identified me as a Noob before, I figured it would be safe to throw out a word which is *somewhat* similar to other words said (specifically, Carry), which to a Shock who wouldn't know what the word was, would see that and get mislead.

Turns out, that's not how it went.

I personally would be fine with lynching Moe though
Actually wait, Moe's words don't make much sense to me
CR how do we disagree on our obvious team if we're on the same team?
Serp I was just unsure about you. I knew coffee was on my team from the 2nd word, and you knew coffee was on your team so I assumed you were on mine.

Voting moe because he used mother to imitate my word when I said it was going to be mama. Imitating other people's words is scummy to me.
my team CR, Scibra, & MasterWalks
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Serp I was just unsure about you. I knew coffee was on my team from the 2nd word, and you knew coffee was on your team so I assumed you were on mine.

Voting moe because he used mother to imitate my word when I said it was going to be mama. Imitating other people's words is scummy to me.

That's not the reason. I decided on my word long ago, hence my comment. But it seems to OK by the rules to give away your next word so I'd also love to do that only that it's daytime.

But that was also a phase when I jokingly almost said that moe is referencing Game of Thrones, which is not supported by his third word

Well, it is just more specific after establishing the setting. You are one of those who could see the connection.

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Re: Puzzle Plight - by shockcannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67211.msg1291342#msg1291342
« Reply #166 on: June 23, 2019, 04:59:30 pm »
I would also like moe's question to be answered.

Order of people/words came up once again. If shocks decided to go from the bottom to the top would everybody know this, i.e. is it reflected in the list? So far everyone assumed that dd saw exactly three words before having to submit his own.
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Re: Puzzle Plight - by shockcannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67211.msg1291344#msg1291344
« Reply #167 on: June 23, 2019, 05:42:44 pm »
But serprex already guessed a word. Like what do you want me to do? Leave him as a confirmed Noob? The rule change is how I'm preventing people from guessing. I can't stop someone from making a post. So that leaves me with mod kill. I don't get what you don't get.
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