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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1155405#msg1155405
« Reply #120 on: September 15, 2014, 07:37:14 am »
i wanted napalm so i hopefully didn't die immediately.

i died immediately anyway.
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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1155406#msg1155406
« Reply #121 on: September 15, 2014, 07:59:18 am »
The best thing is that seems like a completely Blonde thing to do...actually brings a tear to my eye. Miss that man.

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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1155443#msg1155443
« Reply #122 on: September 15, 2014, 12:18:27 pm »
An unexpected end.  Well played all.

Surprised that CCCombobreaker survived as long as he did - was guessing that when the SMS dissolved, he'd quickly be taken out by whichever fragments weren't him.
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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1155444#msg1155444
« Reply #123 on: September 15, 2014, 12:20:41 pm »
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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1155455#msg1155455
« Reply #124 on: September 15, 2014, 01:32:45 pm »
Why everyone congratulate WWW? CCCombo is clearly the true winner, both in terms of ethics and in terms of brute force. ::)
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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1155495#msg1155495
« Reply #125 on: September 15, 2014, 05:43:28 pm »
When xdude and Kael Hate tried to kill you,

Whoa Whoa, hold up one second. I didn't try to kill www3 at all. I would have done later on but at the time I didn't. At this point I might as well tell the full story, from start to finish... (This might take a while)

I got Kael Hate for 505 power from bidding, leaving me with 495 power. Shortly after the game began, www3 contacted me to form an alliance, which I agreed to. He knew Combo was getting an alliance together and told me to get in it and give him info. I did so until I realized he too was in the SMS and communication stopped. After the break-up, www3 and I got back in contact and, with some others, formed the greater alliance again.

By the time there were 5 masters left, www3, Combo and myself were working together and ARTH and Nae were left. www3 told me that Combo wanted me dead and sent me a screenie to prove it. He told me that he trusted me more than Combo and that I should vote for him. However, I was pretty sure that www3 had more power than me and if I targeted Combo then it would come down to who ARTH/Nae wanted to win. So I talked to Combo to confirm that he did want to betray me, and that www3 had betrayed him (both were true).

I knew Combo was voting for me and that www3 would probably be voting for Combo. I needed www3 gone because of his ability but I needed to take out ARTH first. So in a moment of rash decisions and abstaining from betrayal, I made www3 and I vote for ARTH. (Okay, not my brightest moment) The plan was that ARTH would die, then www3 would get taken out some way and I (with vote stealing) would be unstoppable.

The problem was, ARTH had used reflect on me, meaning him and Combo took me out and got ~2000 power each. At this point it was Combo's game to give away, and I am sad that he did in a way. He deserved to win and throwing away a victory is silly. But, he did tell me he had promised to not vote for www3, and that he would keep his promise. In the end, worldwidewed3 won the game. But CCComboBreaker won our hearts...
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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1155496#msg1155496
« Reply #126 on: September 15, 2014, 05:47:04 pm »
When xdude and Kael Hate tried to kill you,

Whoa Whoa, hold up one second. I didn't try to kill www3 at all. I would have done later on but at the time I didn't. At this point I might as well tell the full story, from start to finish... (This might take a while)
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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1155591#msg1155591
« Reply #127 on: September 15, 2014, 11:02:13 pm »
1.) the story is a bit backwards in my head how I read it. It talks about a person who created the shadow master syndicate and that same person betraying many people. Which is wrong, cause CCC created the syndicate. The story behind how he did that, to create such a large alliance ~half the people, was that he thought himself to have no friends. So he asked people to be in their alliance, they all accepted (really people? ... at least be a bit more picky picking allies... not being picky enough is what got my group killed after all.) After the all accepted he created a titanpad and allowed members from alliances to be anonymous, and all the alliances could talk to eachother there. The last part you probably all knew. He was willing to tell this info to any one though, they just had to ask. My first night joining the pad I spent about 2 hours just questioning CCComboBreaker. CCComboBreaker plays his game a lot like mine, but more conservative. Hes practically always honest, except in telling you how much current influence he has on people. Heck, when the shadow master syndicate disbanded, I talked to him and pretended to get him in my alliance, even though I knew he had alliance and roughly knew who was in it and how many. The only person I didnt account for was www. I didnt have enough time to collect the powers of those people, so I played a numbers game and figured 8v5 would win. Instead it was 7v6 and they had a OP xdude. (thanks ian... for your time schedule not matching mine.)

2.)
An unexpected end.  Well played all.

Surprised that CCCombobreaker survived as long as he did - was guessing that when the SMS dissolved, he'd quickly be taken out by whichever fragments weren't him.
Nahhhh. In my excessive questioning of him, once you learn how he systematically bridged together alliances, you'd realize that people would be begging him to be in their alliance so he can combine alliances. Most real alliances are 2 or 3 people, knowing this 2 or 3 people wont hold the power in Grandmaster when 13 people disband, thus those groups will have to join together and the best person for the job, as he proved with the shadow lounge titanpad, is CCComboBreaker. Thus, most of the alliances are gonna go to CCComboBreaker so they can become 2-3 alliances forming 1 alliance of 6-8 people so they hold the power out of 13 people. Having my role, mesaprotector, would have been super helpful to him because then he could check to see everyone elses powers so he doesnt have to get excess people, cause the more people the more likely for one to betray you, as WWW proved in betraying my alliance.

3.)
Congrats www3.

I absolutely loved this game, even if there are some glaring issues that would need addressed if this were ever played again. I'm glad for everyone who I spoke to, the Shadow Masters made by CCCombo added flavor and fun, CR and qwerter for our tireless work in alliance that I'm sure would have prevailed if we hadn't chosen the wrong allies. Ultimately, I relied to much on ARTH being my forum buddy, and let him pull in someone I didn't know who destroyed my group.

Still don't know why you kept hitting me with poison Combo, but at least it helped me for my deathscene ^_^
He kept hitting you with poison so that when it came down to you, www, and ccombobreaker, you'd have nearly no influence on the voting so even if cccombobreaker miraculously died that round, it would come down to you and WWW. With you so low in pwr, WWW then could steam roll you. It was his promise to practically win the game for WWW. Also, if he already knew he could get the game down between you him and www, and he promised not to hit www, who else is their to target with his ability? :P I didnt understand it for a while cause I didnt go around and talk to people after dying (that'd ruin the integrity of the game) until it came down to the final 3. I was thinking he should keep hitting ian because he was xdude, cccombobreaker had to know that, but idk when he learned it. During the shadow syndicate probably. Hitting xdude would pretty much be lowering his power by 800 rather then 400 and wouldnt have made ian such a brute force in the end game. I feel like ian could have won that with his massive power if he teamed up with nae and arth then just didnt get tricked in the final three between them to vote for nae. 

4.) @IAN... You could have won if you followed one of these 2 things because you had such massive power: 1.) you joined Arth and Nae towards the end game and saved nae for last. 2.) No voted whenever they were planning on targeting nae (but for you to realize that youd have to know naes role... you should have really tried to find out who was Xinef if you didnt know) When they told you to vote off nae, you knew nae kept getting poisoned right since she spoke that publicly? Then probably everyone else without you would have enough power to kill nae. And you knew kirch was still in the game, so even if it wasnt enough power to kill off nae, then at least you'd be probably safe. With high power comes high responsibility.

GG though. CCComboBreaker, great job man. The winner to me is not the one with the medal. But the one who, if possible, can choose who the medal is given to. If impossible, then the guy with the medal around his neck. Congratz to WWW though as well. He correctly chose his allies and thats 50% of the battle.

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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1155601#msg1155601
« Reply #128 on: September 15, 2014, 11:31:51 pm »
Poison added a "phantom vote" of 200 onto you, it didn't reduce your power.
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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1155612#msg1155612
« Reply #129 on: September 16, 2014, 02:22:59 am »
:death MrBlonde :death - The only player to ever be a five-time Master, MrBlonde crushed his competition with his powerful Death decks.
Poison (ER): The target player's Voting Total is permanently increased by 200.

Correct, it wasn't reducing my power, it was increasing the votes on me (though it stacked, so more than just a phantom vote). But since CCCombo and www3 were so powerful from extra rounds of getting the kill, it didn't really matter. I don't know that I was ever voted on until the end.

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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1155618#msg1155618
« Reply #130 on: September 16, 2014, 03:13:52 am »
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@Root. According to this Xinef and MrBlonde's abilities would happen at the same time. Does that mean Mrblonde phantom vote thing doesnt actually count as a vote? Xinefs role doesnt diffrentiate between regular votes and phantom votes, but just says votes. So increasing there can be multiple ways to increase the voting total on someone: through abilities and through votes? If thats the case it makes sense.
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Re: Grandmaster (by RootRanger) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55502.msg1155625#msg1155625
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Correct, Xinef's ability does not disable the vote of MrBlonde if he uses Poison on Xinef.
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