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Re: Elements RPG! Part 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6743.msg110702#msg110702
« Reply #588 on: July 08, 2010, 11:39:51 pm »
[OOC] -twiddles her thumbs- By chance, will there be any roleplaying in this roleplay thread today? = ) Or should I just come up with something and run away with it? By now I'm sure you guys notice that arguing gets us nowhere. So, rather than trying to convince someone to do things a certain way, how about you cleverly find a way to manipulate the circumstances to turn out the way you would like them to?  :D
Yes, if necessary, I will directly counter any blatant or excessive godmodding by editing as much as possible of it out in my own writing.

I will, however, make an in-character post soon.

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Re: Elements RPG! Part 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6743.msg110704#msg110704
« Reply #589 on: July 08, 2010, 11:49:22 pm »
[OOC] -twiddles her thumbs- By chance, will there be any roleplaying in this roleplay thread today? = ) Or should I just come up with something and run away with it? By now I'm sure you guys notice that arguing gets us nowhere. So, rather than trying to convince someone to do things a certain way, how about you cleverly find a way to manipulate the circumstances to turn out the way you would like them to?  :D
I highly suggest against it. This isn't Gradual Massacre, or Purity's non-RPG. I don't want to have "attacks" in this RPG where a player does something that another player didn't expect and/or was not comfortable with. I think it's better to argue about the future than to argue about the past.

@Helios: Then that gives Jonathan, and the other players, a chance to visit Heaven. He is trying to ease the tension between Light and Darkness, after all. If Catyrael wishes to go back to Heaven, then Jonathan and the other players can simply go with him.

Is an Obyrith stronger than a False God? In a one-on-one fair fight, I think a full-fledged Master (NOT the pseudo-Masters like Jonathan and Xanriel right now) should be able to, albeit with some difficulty, defeat a single Obyrith. A Master, in 100% power, possesses the collective power of an element in its entirety, and I do not think that a single Obyrith possesses powers greater than that.
After reading my above paragraph, please note that save for Sekhor, we do not have ANY full-fledged Masters in our group right now. We WILL have an extremely hard time beating the Obyriths.

How many Obyriths are there? 7? 12? 13?


I will probably make an InC post today.
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Re: Elements RPG! Part 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6743.msg110705#msg110705
« Reply #590 on: July 08, 2010, 11:51:50 pm »
I already made a post in character today, and will be doing one in response to every other in character post

Also, Xanriel is already a full-fledged Master.

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Re: Elements RPG! Part 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6743.msg110708#msg110708
« Reply #591 on: July 09, 2010, 12:01:00 am »

@Helios: Then that gives Jonathan, and the other players, a chance to visit Heaven. He is trying to ease the tension between Light and Darkness, after all. If Catyrael wishes to go back to Heaven, then Jonathan and the other players can simply go with him.

Is an Obyrith stronger than a False God? In a one-on-one fair fight, I think a full-fledged Master (NOT the pseudo-Masters like Jonathan and Xanriel right now) should be able to, albeit with some difficulty, defeat a single Obyrith. A Master, in 100% power, possesses the collective power of an element in its entirety, and I do not think that a single Obyrith possesses powers greater than that.
After reading my above paragraph, please note that save for Sekhor, we do not have ANY full-fledged Masters in our group right now. We WILL have an extremely hard time beating the Obyriths.

How many Obyriths are there? 7? 12? 13?


I will probably make an InC post today.
If you want an "access pass" to Heaven, I would suggest that you begin communicating in a more friendly way with the Angels.

Concerning the strength of the Obyriths:

1 of us (Full fledged, or true form) vs. 1 of them = Our winning chances are substantial, but we can still easily lose.
1 vs. 2 = We will probably lose.
1 vs. 3 or greater = We will die without the shadow of a doubt.

I would suggest limiting the number of Obyriths to 5, lest they become too overpowered and unbeatable.


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Re: Elements RPG! Part 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6743.msg110716#msg110716
« Reply #592 on: July 09, 2010, 12:13:18 am »
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If you want an "access pass" to Heaven, I would suggest that you begin communicating in a more friendly way with the Angels.
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We finish up with the Morte arc. The group departs for the Kingdom of Darkness, planning to celebrate the victory once they get back; Jonathan invites Catyrael and the other Angels along in an attempt to ease tensions  between Light and Darkness.
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He is trying to ease the tension between Light and Darkness, after all.
I thought I made myself clear. Jonathan's attitude toward Angels will be much friendlier after the Emparael fight.

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1 vs. 2 = We will probably lose.
1 vs. 3 or greater = We will die without the shadow of a doubt.
Those I agree, but...

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Our winning chances are substantial, but we can still easily lose.
...I don't really get how this works. Do you mean a 50-50 chance of winning and losing?

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Also, Xanriel is already a full-fledged Master.
I will not comment on this, since our definitions of a Master are different. I'll try to avoid stepping on your toe as much as possible.
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Re: Elements RPG! Part 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6743.msg110718#msg110718
« Reply #593 on: July 09, 2010, 12:16:51 am »
No need to comment. However you see a full fledged Master, in power, is exactly where Xanriel is. He could stay in the form all the time if he so chose.

I see the chance of a Master, as in one at my level, versus an Obyrith, as being around 40-60, with the favour toward the Obyrith.


Now one of you post in character, seriously.

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Re: Elements RPG! Part 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6743.msg110725#msg110725
« Reply #594 on: July 09, 2010, 12:31:57 am »
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However you see a full fledged Master, in power, is exactly where Xanriel is.
That is where we disagree, and I don't see a chance of it ever getting resolved, unless I quit. Thus, I will simply avoid this issue.

I will post InC today, but not now. I'm doing my math summer school assignment that is due tomorrow.
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Re: Elements RPG! Part 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6743.msg110726#msg110726
« Reply #595 on: July 09, 2010, 12:36:15 am »
You're going to quit over this? Xanriel cannot surpass where he is at now. We might not agree at how powerful a Master is, but Xanriel is at his pinnacle.

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Re: Elements RPG! Part 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6743.msg110731#msg110731
« Reply #596 on: July 09, 2010, 12:44:51 am »
"1 of us (Full fledged, or true form) vs. 1 of them = Our winning chances are substantial, but we can still easily lose." I originally envisioned to mean 55-45 in our favour, but if Purity is willing to extend the challenge to 40-60, I am fine with it.

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Arcterael returned his attention to the Chief Guardian again, maintaining an intense eye contact that suggested some form of communication beyond the Angels was occurring which surpassed mortal comprehension and ability.

In this private manner, Arcterael spoke into Vaderael's mind, "This is the daughter of Lucius? I am not inclined to enthusiastically embrace that belief, for I see little of that valiant and yet hopelessly romantic hero in her, even if she be an Elemental Master."

"Time is all that will be required, in my opinion. She may yet prove herself to you in surprising fashion."


Now speaking openly once more, the Archangel of Hope said to Sirenes, "The fact that you have come is testament to your loyalty to you friend, but for that, Vaderael would not have had need to conduct you before me. On the other hand, if it is introspection you seek, and knowledge of your father, I will agree to assist you, if you so wish. As I presume that your time is completely unoccupied while you remain here, meet me tomorrow at the noontide at the Gardens of Serenity. Vaderael, you may go now."

Inclining his head in deference, the Chief Guardian, escorting Sirenes, exited the Council Chamber.

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Re: Elements RPG! Part 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6743.msg110736#msg110736
« Reply #597 on: July 09, 2010, 12:49:04 am »
You're going to quit over this? Xanriel cannot surpass where he is at now. We might not agree at how powerful a Master is, but Xanriel is at his pinnacle.
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Thus, I will simply avoid this issue.
I said I will avoid poking at this issue. I never said I'll quit.
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Re: Elements RPG! Part 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6743.msg110737#msg110737
« Reply #598 on: July 09, 2010, 12:51:11 am »
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However you see a full fledged Master, in power, is exactly where Xanriel is.
That is where we disagree, and I don't see a chance of it ever getting resolved, unless I quit. Thus, I will simply avoid this issue.

I will post InC today, but not now. I'm doing my math summer school assignment that is due tomorrow.
Oh?

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Re: Elements RPG! Part 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6743.msg110742#msg110742
« Reply #599 on: July 09, 2010, 01:04:55 am »
What I meant was that this issue cannot be resolved in any way unless I quit, in which case the problem will not exist anymore. I don't want to quit, so I will have to avoid this issue.

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