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Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1154212#msg1154212
« on: September 06, 2014, 12:26:53 am »


A game of cracking the code


Mastermind Tournament

Sign up by posting here and sending a code to me with 4 different colors in PM. Each participant will then get another player's code which will need to be solved. A preliminary will be played in Mastermind vanilla. Depending on the number of participants, a number of players can be eliminated (mostly those who took the most turns to find the code). In the first rounds after the preliminary, the games will be played in Mastermind Head-to-Head (inspired by rob77dp). The final 4 players will do a showdown in Mastermind United. The first 2 players get an :electrum reward code. (The rules will be finalized once i know how many people want to join)

Note: In Mastermind Head-to-Head games, players can accept minor rule changes between themselves.


A) Mastermind (vanilla)

The mastermind thinks of a 4-digit code made of the following colors: :entropy :death :gravity :earth :life :fire :water :light :air :time :darkness :aether, but doesn't show it to anyone. He also have to choose a difficulty: easy(the code can contain colors only once) or hard(any color can appear more than once in the code, but it is still possible to build a code with 4 different colors). The players have 10 attempts to figure out the code by posting different codes. The Mastermind has to react them with how many colors were good, but at the wrong place and how many colors were good at the right place (the order of the colors count!).

The Mastermind has to post an empty example board:
(this given example board's first and second line are not empty)

MASTERMIND VANILLA
:rainbow :rainbow :rainbow :rainbowDifficulty: easy/HARD
10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2 :death :entropy :light :air :(
1 :gravity :earth :fire :life :) :) :(

Symbols:

 :) means that a color is used in the code and is put in the right place.
 :( means that a color is used in the code, but it's put in the wrong place.
It is suggested for masterminds to always put :) before :( symbols (similar to alphabetical order).

Minor rulechanges are possible, for example: you can play with only 10 colors as digits and use :light instead of :) and :darkness instead of :(.


B) Mastermind Head-to-Head

This style pits two masterminds against each other simultaneously.  Each mastermind sets up a secret code (per Vanilla+hard rules above) and will take alternating turns.  Each 'round' consists of two player 'turns'.

Prior to the first turn players determine play order (suggest randomizing) and one player posts a blank game-table with Player1name set to the forum name of the player taking first turn and Player2name set to the forum name of the other player.

The first turn consists of Player 1 entering a guess for Player 2's code (as in Vanilla+hard rules above).  The second turn consists of Player 2 responding to Player 1's guess (per Vanilla+hard rules above) and providing a guess for Player 1's code.

Subsequent rounds are completed with alternating turns of replying-and-guessing.  The game ends if at the end of a round a player has correctly identified and guessed their opponent's code.  If both players guess correctly in the same round then a tiebreaker is required.  Tiebreakers are applied in the following order:
1. most :)
2. fewest :(
3. earliest :)
4. earliest :(
5. fewest rounds without :) / :(

(There is no limit to the number of rounds played to determine a winner)

Example game-table shown below:
MASTERMIND H2H
Mastermind Player1name
:rainbow :rainbow :rainbow :rainbowDifficulty: easy/HARDMy code attempts
15
14
13
12
11
10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2
1 :life :water :gravity :gravity
Mastermind Player2name
:rainbow :rainbow :rainbow :rainbowDifficulty: n/aMy code attempts
15
14
13
12
11
10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2
1 :life :water :gravity :gravity :) :( :(


C) Mastermind United

This game is played between 4 Masterminds. They have to figure out each other's code in 15 attempts. Each attempt goes to all 3 other masterminds, and they have to both say how many of the colors were good at the right/wrong place. One mastermind only needs to answer the first 15 codes, regardless of which masterminds posted it. Only for experts:


MASTERMIND UNITED
Mastermind Autumn
:rainbow :rainbow :rainbow :rainbowDifficulty: easy/HARDMy code attempts
15
14
13
12
11
10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2
1 :life :water :gravity :gravity
Mastermind Spring
:rainbow :rainbow :rainbow :rainbowDifficulty: easy/HARDMy code attempts
15
14
13
12
11
10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2
1 :life :water :gravity :gravity :) :( :(
Mastermind Summer
:rainbow :rainbow :rainbow :rainbowDifficulty: easy/HARDMy code attempts
15
14
13
12
11
10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2
1 :life :water :gravity :gravity
Mastermind Winter
:rainbow :rainbow :rainbow :rainbowDifficulty: easy/HARDMy code attempts
15
14
13
12
11
10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2
1 :life :water :gravity :gravity :) :)


Signup list:
1) ddevans 96 - code sent in
2) ARTHANASIOS - code sent in
3) theelkspeaks - code sent in
4) qwerter - code sent in
5) rob77dp - code sent in
6) RootRanger - code sent in
7) dawn to dusk - code sent in
8.) Kuroaitou - code sent in
9)
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14)
15)
16)

Time until signups end:


edit1: added signup countdown
« Last Edit: September 12, 2014, 05:52:04 pm by Submachine »
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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1154215#msg1154215
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2014, 05:16:16 am »
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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1154305#msg1154305
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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1154943#msg1154943
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2014, 06:18:15 pm »
ROUND 0 Rules:

In Round 0, participants get a random player's code which they will have to solve. The codes are on Easy difficulty, so each color is different. Round 0 is only a warmup, so noone will be eliminated, though if there are 2 or less players who can manage to solve a code in 5 attempts or less, they get an extra life, which prevents being eliminated once.

Each player will have his/her own code topic. To make an attempt, just write your code idea in the comments of your own topic. You can write notes for yourself, so if you write a code in a context, it won't count unless you want it to count. ;)

So for Round 0, good luck for everyone! :)


ddevans96 gets rob77dp's code,
ARTHANASIOS gets theelkspeaks' code,
theelkspeaks gets ddevans96's code,
qwerter gets RootRanger's code,
rob77dp gets qwerter's code,
RootRanger gets ARTHANASIOS' code,
dawn to dusk gets Kuroaitou's code and
Kuroaitou gets dawn to dusk's code to solve.

*edit1: added who's solving whose code.
*edit2: added links to the individual games.
*edit3: added the following rule: Those players whose submitted codes couldn't be solved in 10 turns, get an extra life aswell.
*edit4: removed the rule added in edit3. my bad.
*edit5: fixed the name of ddevans96.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2014, 07:04:29 pm by Submachine »
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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1155023#msg1155023
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2014, 12:23:40 pm »
Edited the rules for Round 0 (I had this in mind, I just forgot to put it earlier).
Now those players whose submitted codes couldn't be solved in 10 turns, get an extra life aswell.
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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1155070#msg1155070
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2014, 07:05:45 pm »
Edited the rules for Round 0 (I had this in mind, I just forgot to put it earlier).
Now those players whose submitted codes couldn't be solved in 10 turns, get an extra life aswell.
So, the players who were lucky enough to be matched with a crappy player get an extra life? That does not sound very fair to me.
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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1155072#msg1155072
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2014, 07:24:30 pm »
So, the players who were lucky enough to be matched with a crappy player get an extra life? That does not sound very fair to me.

Root, since all the codes are of the "Easy" level they are of the same difficulty. I had personaly sent a code of a hard difficulty but Submachine PMed me and I had to change it to an easy one. Since measures were taken to ensure the balance between each code of the same level, I don't think rewarding the creator of the code is unfair, do you? ;)
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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1155073#msg1155073
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2014, 07:29:52 pm »
Rewarding the creator of the code is unfair because they are all on the same difficulty.

There's no skill or ability that goes in to making a code. How long it takes for your code to be guessed does not depend on your own skill and ability - it depends entirely on luck and the skill of the player who has to guess your code.
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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1155074#msg1155074
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2014, 07:38:23 pm »
Rewarding the creator of the code is unfair because they are all on the same difficulty.

There's no skill or ability that goes in to making a code. How long it takes for your code to be guessed does not depend on your own skill and ability - it depends entirely on luck and the skill of the player who has to guess your code.

 You are right here, but think it like a Weekly Tournie. There are two average EtG players of the same level; one is matched against a veteran and the other one against a newbie. The average player who faces the veteran loses and is kicked out of the tournament while the one facing the newbie wins and advances the brackets, which is unfair but unavoidable.
 Now, let's replace the average EtG players with the Easy Mastermind codes, the veteran EtG player with a Mastermind vet and the newbie EtG player with a Mastermind noob and we have exactly the same level of unfairness with a typical Weekly Tounrie.
 In other words, Elements Mastermind's current ruleset is not more unfair than Weekly Tournie's ruleset.
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2014, 07:46:57 pm »
Perhaps, but why make it unfair in the first place? Why not make the rules as fair as possible?
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