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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1155118#msg1155118
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2014, 10:46:38 pm »
I acknowledged Root's opinion and I think he's right. Since noone got any points from this yet, i think i can still change it without consequences.
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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1155735#msg1155735
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2014, 08:13:40 am »
All codes have been solved, except one. We are now waiting for ddevans96 to solve his code.
For now, we can already know that only dawn to dusk got an extra life for future rounds.

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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1155744#msg1155744
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2014, 10:50:01 am »
All codes have been solved, except one. We are now waiting for ddevans96 to solve his code.
For now, we can already know that only dawn to dusk got an extra life for future rounds.

If ddevans96 doesn't reply a code attempt in the following 2 days, his code will remain unsolved.
Time is up!

I find a little unfair for ddevans96 to be denied his code; right now, there is 50% chance to solve the code in attempt 6 and 100% chance to solve it in attempt 7. If it was completely unsolved it would be fair, but right now it is just 1-2 obvious steps from vitcory. :(
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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1155756#msg1155756
« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2014, 01:08:16 pm »
All codes have been solved, except one. We are now waiting for ddevans96 to solve his code.
For now, we can already know that only dawn to dusk got an extra life for future rounds.

If ddevans96 doesn't reply a code attempt in the following 2 days, his code will remain unsolved.
Time is up!

I find a little unfair for ddevans96 to be denied his code; right now, there is 50% chance to solve the code in attempt 6 and 100% chance to solve it in attempt 7. If it was completely unsolved it would be fair, but right now it is just 1-2 obvious steps from vitcory. :(
I know, but if he's not replying at all, that means that he lost interest in the game. If that happened, i cannot make the other players wait for nothing.
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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1155809#msg1155809
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2014, 09:03:22 pm »
Obvious steps?

I'm dumber than I think, then...
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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1155810#msg1155810
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2014, 09:07:31 pm »
Obvious steps?

I'm dumber than I think, then...
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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1155814#msg1155814
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2014, 09:36:36 pm »
Obvious steps?

I'm dumber than I think, then...

Think practically...
Make a list of the elements you are 100% sure they are NOT included in the solution.
Make a list of the elements you are 100% sure they ARE included in the solution.
Make a list of the elements you are not sure if included or not in the solution.
Try to eradicate the 3rd list (not sure if included or not) by studying the results of your previous attempts.
Try to see if you are 100% sure a certain element does NOT belong to a certain position.
Try to see if you are 100% sure a certain element DOES belong to a certain position.
Try to see if you are 75%, 50% or 25% sure a certain element belonging or not to a certain position.
After exhausting every bit of info you can gather from your previous attemps, make your next attempt...
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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1155816#msg1155816
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2014, 09:49:47 pm »
Obvious steps?

I'm dumber than I think, then...

Think practically...
Make a list of the elements you are 100% sure they are NOT included in the solution.
Make a list of the elements you are 100% sure they ARE included in the solution.
Make a list of the elements you are not sure if included or not in the solution.
Try to eradicate the 3rd list (not sure if included or not) by studying the results of your previous attempts.
Try to see if you are 100% sure a certain element does NOT belong to a certain position.
Try to see if you are 100% sure a certain element DOES belong to a certain position.
Try to see if you are 75%, 50% or 25% sure a certain element belonging or not to a certain position.
After exhausting every bit of info you can gather from your previous attemps, make your next attempt...

A logic flow (list of conclusions?) is the way I did it for Guess #10 (and will do for the actual event rounds).  Itemized lists are the best as you can then build combination conditional statements to decide where to go with your next guess(es).  The steps you have here ARTH are basically the methods to generating the list I am describing.

(If the above seems like just jibber-jabber, then that's OK because I don't want to make my 'secret' method for success publicly digestable!) :P
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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1155819#msg1155819
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2014, 10:03:17 pm »
ddevans told me in chat that he gave up and wants someone to take his place. If that's true, I'm opening signups again until Friday, but then we should move on. I think coffeeditto or Crockett showed interest. The new person will go to Round 1 with the others without extra lives.
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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1156150#msg1156150
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2014, 08:51:00 pm »
Round 0 is now over!

Results:
1.) dawn to dusk - 5 attempts (extra life!)
2.) Kuroaitou - 6 attempts
2.) theelkspeaks - 6 attempts
4.) ARTHANASIOS - 7 attempts
4.) RootRanger - 7 attempts
6.) qwerter - 8 attempts
7.) rob77dp - 10 attempts
8.) ddevans 96 - forfeited

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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1156156#msg1156156
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2014, 09:48:49 pm »
ROUND 1 Rules:

In Round 1, participants are matched up with each other randomly and they will play a Mastermind Head-to-Head game. First, all players create a secret code and send it to me in a PM (even if they sent one in before Round 0), then they try to figure out each other's codes. The codes are now on HARD difficulty, so any 4-digit code can be used.

Mastermind Head-to-Head rules are just guidelines. If both you and your opponent accept on a rule change, you can play with those new rules. Note that the game has to be equally challenging to both players.

General Rules: players have unlimited attempts to solve the opponent's code. However, to avoid the luck-factor a bit, participants should make a Zero-Attempt. This means that each player posts a half of a code to then put them together and create the Zero-Attempt code, which will show up on both players' boards. The half-codes should be posted in the respective game match thread.

Brackets: since there is an odd number of players, one player will get a bye. To don't leave him out of the fun, a Sandbox will be opened where he is given the opportunity to play againt either the organizer or any other players he names. He can also decide to just skip Round 1. From then on, Sandbox will be kept open for unofficial Mastermind Games, with any rules, for any players on the Forum.

The winner of a normal match (not including the BYE-game) is the person who solved the code in less turns. The winner moves on to the next round, the loser, however, is eliminated from the tournament (but he can keep playing in Sandbox). If 2 players solve the code in equal attempts, none of them gets eliminated.


BRACKETS:

A) rob77dp VS RootRanger
B) ARTHANASIOS VS Kuroaitou
C) qwerter VS dawn to dusk
D) theelkspeaks VS eaglgenes101


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Re: Elements Mastermind - by Submachine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55627.msg1156479#msg1156479
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2014, 11:45:45 am »
For Round 1
HARD code sent in?have Zero Attempt code?0 Attempt code sent in?
dawn to dusk
Yes
Yes
Yes
qwerter
Yes
Yes
Yes
RootRanger
Yes
Yes
Yes
Kuroaitou
Yes
Yes
Yes
ARTHANASIOS
Yes
Yes
Yes
rob77dp
Yes
Yes
Yes
theelkspeaks
Yes
Yes
Yes
eaglgenes101
Yes
Yes
Yes

Important Sidenote: when you're posting attempts, you don't have to wait for me to edit the table. The table is a nice way to follow what's happening and I'll edit it when I can, but it's not necessary. This way you don't have to wait for me when both of you are online, but i am not. Just make sure to keep track on some paper or anything.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2014, 05:48:34 am by Submachine »
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