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Re: Elements Mafia Siblings by ddevans96 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11276.msg148247#msg148247
« Reply #120 on: August 29, 2010, 12:48:59 am »
I have no "proof." However, obviously one of us is a fake god. If it were me, I see no reason that I would have done something like this; it would only make me an obvious fake god (causing me to be lynched tomorrow) while only eliminating one villager. However, you can imagine that in 3 nights it would be probable that the oracle would find at least one fake god and at least one civilian. I am that civilian, and you are that fake god. The other person who he had investigated, by the way, was linkcat - but he died.

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Re: Elements Mafia Siblings by ddevans96 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11276.msg148256#msg148256
« Reply #121 on: August 29, 2010, 12:58:16 am »
and yet there's more people that can't conferm your story...wow...

honestly its a neat trick, and im impressed with the strategy, but you choose the wrong guy to try and pull it over on.  yes as a fg you will die next round but, knowing you'd get called out on it there would be a huge fight back and forth.  Other than you and i one of your fellow fg's would jump in, siding with me.  The chain of events would be....

I get killed and prove i'm innocent and you'd be rid of a threat
You'd get killed and prove your a fg
The misc other fg would solidify a trust with the remaining innocents.  Then they'd be sitting pretty....one fg who could be vocal and sway the opinions of the innocents, and one sleeper fg whom would stay quiet until the end.

Shame on all three of you, and good luck pulling it off.

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Re: Elements Mafia Siblings by ddevans96 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11276.msg148260#msg148260
« Reply #122 on: August 29, 2010, 01:09:15 am »
Actually, I would just be sacrificing myself for almost nothing. Remember, fgs are at a minority - a 1 for 1 trade is bad for the fgs. And that strategy you mention... can you give any reason why, if I were a fg, I couldn't just try to pull that off... y'know... without sacrificing myself?

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Re: Elements Mafia Siblings by ddevans96 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11276.msg148262#msg148262
« Reply #123 on: August 29, 2010, 01:14:35 am »
because with that stratagy (which ive seen in similar forms before) you would need to have a fg killed, if not you than one of your buddies.

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Re: Elements Mafia Siblings by ddevans96 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11276.msg148269#msg148269
« Reply #124 on: August 29, 2010, 01:33:16 am »
because with that stratagy (which ive seen in similar forms before) you would need to have a fg killed, if not you than one of your buddies.
Why?

Bender74d

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Re: Elements Mafia Siblings by ddevans96 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11276.msg148273#msg148273
« Reply #125 on: August 29, 2010, 01:39:25 am »
Because if a sacraficial FG is involved then the fg that is vocal against him has his reputation locked, and if done right, never to be questioned until MUCH later rounds....however if there isn't a sacraficial FG involved then once the vocal FG's target is killed and proved innocent, his reputation becomes negative and he becomes suspect. 

implosion

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Re: Elements Mafia Siblings by ddevans96 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11276.msg148277#msg148277
« Reply #126 on: August 29, 2010, 01:44:19 am »
So are you saying that I would be killing you, you would be a fake god and that would make me seem more innocent?

Or are you saying that after you die and if you were proven innocent, then a different fake god other than me would instantly step in and call me a fake god?

Well... at any rate, there's one easy way to figure it all out. Lynching Bender. Since he is a fake god :).

I've seen the strategy you describe as well, and it's usually used a bit later in the game... at this time, if I were a fake god, I would not use it.

Bender74d

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Re: Elements Mafia Siblings by ddevans96 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11276.msg148280#msg148280
« Reply #127 on: August 29, 2010, 01:49:30 am »
So are you saying that I would be killing you, you would be a fake god and that would make me seem more innocent?

Or are you saying that after you die and if you were proven innocent, then a different fake god other than me would instantly step in and call me a fake god?

Well... at any rate, there's one easy way to figure it all out. Lynching Bender. Since he is a fake god :).

I've seen the strategy you describe as well, and it's usually used a bit later in the game... at this time, if I were a fake god, I would not use it.
You just aren't getting it, and playing ignorant won't help you.  I'm done explaining the stratagy that you're using.  The fact remains that you instantly steped up after the oracle was killed and started using referances that can't back you up.  Because i called you out on it your buddy won't step in and co-accuse you along side of me anymore because he would just give himself away.  So fellow innocents, pay attention to who quietly slips thier vote in without legitimate remarks, they will be the people to suspect along with implosion.

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Re: Elements Mafia Siblings by ddevans96 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11276.msg148285#msg148285
« Reply #128 on: August 29, 2010, 02:00:42 am »
I'm not feigning ignorance... I really just don't see why I would sacrifice myself for this. But oh well. I supposed it's up to everyone else to decide.

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Re: Elements Mafia Siblings by ddevans96 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11276.msg148349#msg148349
« Reply #129 on: August 29, 2010, 04:35:00 am »
i dont feel like reading the whole discussion so ill just bandwagon on whoever is getting kicked anyways

Re: Elements Mafia Siblings by ddevans96 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11276.msg148367#msg148367
« Reply #130 on: August 29, 2010, 05:22:21 am »
bender actually the oracle had told me that you were one too
he never specified on implosion but if this makes me seem suspicious by all means lynch me

Bender74d - 2 (implosion, giversgivealot)
Implosion - 1 (bender74d)

i had not actually believed he was the oracle in the firs place but when he died i had realized that he was telling the truth

i have COMPLETE faith in implosion so kill me instead of him

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Re: Elements Mafia Siblings by ddevans96 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11276.msg148442#msg148442
« Reply #131 on: August 29, 2010, 01:16:48 pm »

Bender74d - 3 (implosion, giversgivealot, JJ 52)
Implosion - 1 (bender74d)

I believe Implosion more, but...How about we lynch Implosion next, then givers?

Especially if Bender is innocent

 

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