Elements Mafia 9 by ddevans96

[ddevans96]

It makes perfect sense. Everyone kills me. Either:

A: I'm a mafia. You all killed a mafia. Yayz.
B: I'm a civilian (I'm not a seer/doctor, I wouldn't ask to die if I was). After I die, everyone sends me their roles. Of course the mafia will claim innocence. I then tell the seer and doctor who each other are, tell them everyone's secondary abilities, and they take it from there.

That would be against the rules.

Actually as the ghost he is still part of the game itself and can discuss. Due to the fact that he still votes we would knoe hes innocent and we would whoop ass by setting up a docter+seer

Okay, I read the rules wrong. But it would be really unfair.

[Glitch]

So... we should all vote for implosion?

[karthikking]

Yes

[$$$man]

It makes perfect sense. Everyone kills me. Either:

A: I'm a mafia. You all killed a mafia. Yayz.
B: I'm a civilian (I'm not a seer/doctor, I wouldn't ask to die if I was). After I die, everyone sends me their roles. Of course the mafia will claim innocence. I then tell the seer and doctor who each other are, tell them everyone's secondary abilities, and they take it from there.

That would be against the rules.

Actually as the ghost he is still part of the game itself and can discuss. Due to the fact that he still votes we would knoe hes innocent and we would whoop ass by setting up a docter+seer

Okay, I read the rules wrong. But it would be really unfair.

How so since he set it up we could essentially do it without killing him just by setting up a doctor+implosion combo

[$$$man]

Wait dont vote for him yet.

[implosion]

It really hasn't happened before, so we haven't had to deal with it.

At any rate... it isn't an autowin by any means. I still can't learn who the mafia are, and last time a few people (won't name names) refused to send me their roles Edit for clarification: I was the immortal.

But still. Lynch me. I WANNA DIE!!!!

[Demagog]

Since I was the creator of these roles, I have final say on the matter. The role only allows you to vote. You may not communicate with others in any way.

[implosion]

Okay...

A: can SOMEONE in a position of power (P_R most likely) decide who has final say?
B: can everyone just look over your role, see if it's ambiguous like this in any way, and tell whoever turns out to have final say so that they can clarify it? I want to prevent other things like this.
C: can everyone lynch me either way

[Demagog]

Honestly I'd say lynching implosion would be a bad idea. If he's an FG, that basically makes him completely immortal and it will actually be like we didn't kill him at all. If he's innocent, then we just wasted a lynch opportunity.

You should let the FG's kill the ghost, or kill him on accident.

[implosion]

Well, the fgs know I'm the ghost... they have no reason to kill me. I still vote, and I can still help outnumber them in the end.

If I am a fake god, it does not make me immortal. If we're using the version where the ghost can't do anything but vote, I'm at a disadvantage; if I vote with the mafia, others would flock away from that person. So I would vote for the mafia - but then I'm voting against my own team. I would probably just not vote, it might be too risky. If we play the version where I can still do anything, again, I'm at a disadvantage. I obviously can't do the classic fg tactic of blending in with the crowd. I really can't say anything, anything I say will have no meaning.

If I am a villager, then again... we only lose one vote (the fgkill) rather than two if we kill a villager. Sure, we might kill a fg, but probably not. The first vote is usually random - this way, we can avoid that and go straight to voting with reason. We also don't risk killing the seer/doctor. By round 2, we should have enough info to figure out a fg or two.

It's now or never (or possibly much later by chance). After today, if I'm alive, a tradesman is likely to trade with me. Ghost is a desirable role, it lets you participate even after death.

[Xoned]

God you guys are making this complicated.

I'm sticking with my RNG vote for round one, and honestly imp, you're more use to us alive. If your innocent as you say then the FG's have one more person to go through. Why should we do their dirty work?

[implosion]

God you guys are making this complicated.

I'm sticking with my RNG vote for round one, and honestly imp, you're more use to us alive. If your innocent as you say then the FG's have one more person to go through. Why should we do their dirty work?

The first round is random - and there are more civvies than fgs. Chances are, we're doing their dirty work anyway. Killing me isn't as bad as killing a civvy because we don't lose a vote, nor do we lose the seer/doctor, nor do we lose any valuable secondary roles. We could get a fg by chance, but probably won't.