Looking for spew from kdz:
Two hours remaining. Any objections to the current vote?
Then whats the alternative? I don't love any of the trains, before I may have been able to be convinced on sub, but he made a kinda decent point about how we have the wrong expectations for his play (Given he was mafia the game in reference. Though I cant remember which game it was out of 73-75) and I dont want to poke the bear that is Torb/Serp RN.
Is w3 REALLY our only option here aside from sub/torb?
I can see some reluctance to vote w3 here.
Is w3 REALLY our only option here aside from sub/torb?
Well, who would you vote on, in a vacuum?
I'd prefer Timpa or www3 I guess, I just feel bad cause it seems like w3 always dies D1 and I want people to like, actually be able to play the game you know? But someone has to die, a no lynch is pretty bad imo 99% of the time.
I dont think rob should be on the table, theyll get afk killed at worst and also I miss rob
The not-wanting-to-vote-w3-yet-scumreading-him-part is really odd. Also suggests timpa-train (townpr, ina probably had insight there) as an alternative.
Ive been finding it hard to follow skys logic train as well, but I just figured it was because I have brain rot. Also Hi, my 10 minute meeting ran an hour and 10 
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Debating whether this makes kdz sky not w/w. Probably not, since unorthodox playstyles often persist across alignements, but I'll note it anyway.
Hi guys! Power still out 
But thats okay, I'm here to post, but I'll have to keep it a lil brief. (Plus I found my backup phone battery, so I guess I got that going for me)
VV
Serp - Silent Stalker Info, curtesy of torb
Rob - By Virtue of Serp
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PlayerOa - Feels like typical Oa stuff. I haven't seen anything overtly out of place, and I agree with most of their points. Namely their concern over poke (And confusion over the rules heh. I confess, theres so much /happening/ I'm so used to the simple Wolf+Cop+Doc set up. I think I'm getting the hang of it though)
kaempfer13 - Is just doing kae stuff I guess? Lynch logs and etc. Quelled some bloodlust, trying to solve, etc. Not sure if I agree with their thoughts on the vig shots, but I at least understand it.
N
skyironsword - Mainly just confused on this one, spends 10 posts talking about confirming aqua, then hard claims not aqua, I just dont get the point of asking so often. It feels like they just get stuck on these rabbit holes or pipe dreams and drives a conversation around those ideas. If it pays off, they'll quickly move up but for now I cant tell if its not just a distraction/nonsense. I feel like I need to sit down and just reread their messages in the context of the information thats been revealed.
MW - hasn't actively thrown yet. Can't tell if thats a good or bad sign. Looking forward to the excitement if that changes though ;P.
andretimpa - Hasn't spoken much of value Post Torb/Serp. I'd love to get some more from them, esp considering they have 0 people at n- who arent either dead or conf town, so obv the readlist is out of date. This one is the most volatile in N.
N-
W3 - As usual, I disagree with just about everything they say and do. I cant tell if its just that we have opposite playstyles, or I just cant follow w3's logic but my gut screams sus. Only at n- to account for any bias in terms of playstyle, but its hard when I disagree with just about every single post.
Poke - Talks about catching up, but has not posted much of substance. I'd love to have more to go on. I'm not sure if its pressure thats needed to get more out, or simply time.
My Lynch order currently is W3 -> Poke -> ??? (if I HAD to include N - MW->Sky->Timpa)
This ??? is mainly because of the ambiguity surrounding timpa atm for me.
If I were to ask for a plan of action, I would want a new read list from timpa to start. I'd like poke to be an actual player rather then just slipping under the radar (Big talk from me eh?). I'd like MW to spend a minute reading the rules so we don't have to policy lynch them (As someone who is perpetually confused, being so only gets you so far.) I'd like sky to make sense to me. Lastly I'd really just like to see more from rob I know youre just finding the time to play (And already a conf town ;p go you) so don't think this is a chastisement, the last day has been great i'm just eager to get more.
Also as I said, this is mobile, I can develop more if needed and again, open to discussion/questions/prodding, but patience please
Also Also, can we PLEASE not shorten day phases/night phases? I can concede the night phase shorten I guess but the 2 days really helps me have enough time to read everything, since my free time is so damn chaotic.
Yes, readlist! Those townreads kinda dont feel like actual townreads. I mean I suppose you are statistically more likely to roll town, so if you're playstyle differs, doing the usual can point to town I guess. actually all of these are kinda not actual reads.
For context votes at the time: worldwideweb3 (2) - rob77dp, PlayerOa
skyironsword (1) - MasterNoob
PlayerOa (1) - skyironsword
killsdazombies (1) - serprex
so both kdz and w3 had some pressure at the time, not too much tho. It's probably too easy to think that kdz just put both her partners in N- even if that would be great in todays trains (w3 poke team not mechanically impossible, since w3 couldnt kill anyone but kdz so long as his claim is truthfull, but still). It should be noted that this would both be a good time to bus or to set yourself up to vote a town thats under decent pressure already.
If its not both of them that would make a partner in sky and mw likely. The sky read kinda feels like not w/w again, the mw read tells me nothing.
Spoiler for Hidden:
Obviously my opinion on ftw is a bit skewed, since im one of the two names realistically on that chopping block (since I doubt oa would kill himself/rob) So lets start with some basic facts
There are 9 people left in this game. Lets assume that doc is mafia/fails to protect the nk target/ forgets how to type and fails to send in a use. NK goes through and we are at 8. Both Vig shots fire and we fail on both we are at 6, a 3/3 and we just lose. For this reason, I think we should only fire one vig shot unless we are ABSOLUTELY sure about our targets. Luckily it seems like we dont have worry about someone dying to rock paper scissors since no one has claimed to be targeted by it (I think thats how the ability works yeah? Daytime target and then nighttime deathmatch? Please correct if wrong im still an idiot lmao) I'm honestly really worried at least one of the vig shots is mafia, and in that case if the town fires and misses, we just lose if mafia fires.
In my eyes, if were going to have someone shoot, it should be someone we trust to at least fire as a town. Unfortunately, we dont know who trident is (For good reason mind you, we dont need another dead doc) So for me, the only viable shooter is OA, and while to you all he has two targets, for me it comes down to if I think poke town. I'm not sure if I can confidently say one way or the other, they still exist as a sort of blank slate to me.
I really need to sit down with some paper and try to play out each scenario over dinner tonight, but I dont really have a great answer for you right now rob, but I'll spend some time and try to get rationalize a better one. I guess the first course of action is to figure out how many shots we want to fire, and the likelihood of at least one of those shots being mafia/hitting a mafia with the town shot and try to form a plan of action from there.
This was probably just to save her own hide, considering poke is immune to vigs.
Not quoted are the happy greetings to various dead/confirmed town and poke. Not sure if I should read sth into that.
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