Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat

[skyironsword]

aqua scum would be very troubling. Town doc dead leaves the how that nurse is town. Would serp and I surviving N1 more likely indicate 1 or zero mafia docs?

I suspected a mafia doc, but I thought it was andre, and that didn't pan out. If the mafia has Gura, we probably just lose.

[MasterWalks]

What's EV?

[serprex]

Ev is expected value

You don't need to save vig for cop, just lynch check. Also highly unlikely I get a second check this game

[skyironsword]

I won't go as far as saying the vigs should claim their targets, but can we at least reach a consensus on whether or not they should be shooting someone tonight? Things get messy if someone dies tonight and neither vig admits to it.

[MasterWalks]

MW, if you're town and we decide TRYING to block aqua ftw is town +EV then maybe that isn't so useless?

I'm down. But I can't target tonight. So we can lynch aqua if town dies tonight.

[rob77dp]

I'm game for ftw targeting not me (poke\oa\KDZ)

Trident at www3?

If that doesn't hit any scum and nk goes through, then what were our chances anyway...

Thoughts?

[rob77dp]

MW, if you're town and we decide TRYING to block aqua ftw is town +EV then maybe that isn't so useless?

I'm down. But I can't target tonight. So we can lynch aqua if town dies tonight.

Maybe mafia team worst oblige shooting you tonight

[skyironsword]

I'm game for ftw targeting not me (poke\oa\KDZ)

You might have missed the roleclaim, but Oa isn't going to FTW themselves, regardless of faction.

[rob77dp]

That's right, momentarily forgot that part.

sky, from a town!you pov... Only way oa and KDZ are both town is if scum team is exactly mw\poke\www3 (save for deep wolf kae...)?

[rob77dp]

That kind of thought process is why if oa claim is true... If he's mafias we're in deep doodoo. If he's town my vote is he ftw's between poke and KDZ.

[skyironsword]

That's right, momentarily forgot that part.

sky, from a town!you pov... Only way oa and KDZ are both town is if scum team is exactly mw\poke\www3 (save for deep wolf kae...)?

I strongly suspect Oa of being mafia, but if we mislynch Oa, we're dead.

We might be at the point where we have to assume mafia doesn't have any more vig effects. Andre flipping town put us in a bad spot.

[skyironsword]

Trident MasterNoob
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Oa: FTW should go against who you believe most likely w/v with MasterNoob

I'm game for ftw targeting not me (poke\oa\KDZ)

Trident at www3?

I prefer rob's plan here, if only because we're more likely to live to see Day 3. If w3 isn't mafia either, well, my compliments to the mafia team.