Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat

[andretimpa]

I've always wanted to see competitive bus racing.

[killsdazombies]

I've always wanted to see competitive bus racing.

Spoiler for Your wish is my command:

[Linkcat]

Actually a question for Link. The person that gets killed can send Calli a message in the first 24 hours. Will they have access to dead pad in that time?

Conveying information from dead pad makes calli 10x stronger and worth protecting.

No. Also, Watame does not get access until she dies the second time, but she does get to send a second message to Calli.

[rob77dp]

And maybe this becomes relevant later in claims stage... Torb was targeting sky last night... Any idea who it seemed he would target from the THREAD? The fact that scum put killing him above about to get confirmed rob (me) might mean the suspected torb target was a mafia and they feared torb getting report on them...

Anyone able to parse that to more meaning than it has to me at first?

[skyironsword]

And maybe this becomes relevant later in claims stage... Torb was targeting sky last night... Any idea who it seemed he would target from the THREAD? The fact that scum put killing him above about to get confirmed rob (me) might mean the suspected torb target was a mafia and they feared torb getting report on them...

Anyone able to parse that to more meaning than it has to me at first?

I say this partially in self-defense, but it doesn't make much sense to me to kill Sora just because she's checking a mafia role. Amelia's the only one that can actually detect alignment. I suspect they went after TorB because both were confirmed town, but they decided serprex was more likely to be protected.

[rob77dp]

Sky that's fair I think... Feels weird to me how little traction in terms of VOTES the current wagons are getting? Either EVERYONE is a town wagon or multiple scum getting voted.... ? Or just dead thread  :'(

[MasterWalks]

And maybe this becomes relevant later in claims stage... Torb was targeting sky last night... Any idea who it seemed he would target from the THREAD? The fact that scum put killing him above about to get confirmed rob (me) might mean the suspected torb target was a mafia and they feared torb getting report on them...

Anyone able to parse that to more meaning than it has to me at first?

Torb had, what I understand, a Psion type ability but with extra steps and more thinking. That means if mafia was worried about Torb, then they are worried about one of their roles being revealed. What role would be scummy right now? Aqua? If aqua killed naii, who we as town decided was the best target for ftw, then it shouldn't be seen as scummy. No one has revealed that they were blocked so warden types wouldn't be scummy either. I'm not too sure what role they are worried about, but I think it's something we might wanna figure out.

[worldwideweb3]

Sky that's fair I think... Feels weird to me how little traction in terms of VOTES the current wagons are getting? Either EVERYONE is a town wagon or multiple scum getting voted.... ? Or just dead thread  :'(

7/10 have voted, only ones left to vote are poke, kdz, and kae

[rob77dp]

Sky that's fair I think... Feels weird to me how little traction in terms of VOTES the current wagons are getting? Either EVERYONE is a town wagon or multiple scum getting voted.... ? Or just dead thread  :'(

7/10 have voted, only ones left to vote are poke, kdz, and kae

the vote concentration not voting rate, and taking a quick re look actually 3\3 is not bad and would love to see kdz vote, and kae. And for poke to do more than almost nothing? (If they're scum, then maybe teammates said 'stay quiet now, your townread now for a clueless type series of posts' -- that's mostly what my hot take read on them is about)

[andretimpa]

My two cents: The torb NK was surprising to me, since there was still the remote possibility that torb had just been buddying serp and I thought mafia might try to exploit that, specially if torb remained alive for too long. rob and serp were the most prominent targets imo. In hindsight sky is likely right about what happened.

[killsdazombies]

You know rob, Ive been mulling it over a bit, and I disagree with your take on timpa. While I am not saying I townlean timpa, and I agree they need a real solid looking. It seems like this timpa is a lot more willing to sheep.

Lets look here http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/elements-mafia-74-by-skyironsword/msg1300718/#msg1300718 a moment where you and timpa interacted. We see intent in these posts, and direct calls to action. He actively defends coffee http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/elements-mafia-74-by-skyironsword/msg1300536/#msg1300536 and here as the chips are up he still is ACTIVE. He accuses his teammates in a last ditch bid to survive. http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/elements-mafia-74-by-skyironsword/msg1301204/#msg1301204 I dont see any of these moments in timpas current play. Timpa hasn't really called for and pushed for blood, timpa hasn't been in a ton of conversation. Now, admittedly this is all from 74.

So lets look at 73, and specifically his death, as its approaching now too. http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1299035/#msg1299035 Look at the effort. Where is it in this game? Again we see an extensive readlist from timpa as mafia http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1298098/#msg1298098 like these posts are huge http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-game-archive/elements-mafia-73-by-playeroa/msg1297959/#msg1297959

Now, I concede that the /Vibe/ could be the same, and I trust my gut as much as the next guy, but rob you gotta admit the Content, Volume and Intent are not even close to the same. These two posts are by far the two most developed timpa has offered and they are barren. http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-77-by-linkcat/msg1306093/#msg1306093 http://elementscommunity.org/forum/forum-games/elements-mafia-77-by-linkcat/msg1305477/#msg1305477

If were going to kill timpa, I need more then a feeling from you rob, if the dead are giving you info and you need us to trust you thats fine, but this feels flimsy.

[rob77dp]

I think his play in 73\74 also ended up resulting in a buddy getting whacked too? I would presume scum timpa to evolve a little bit? I don't KNOW he's mafia this game, but feel it a good enough chance to have my vote there for now...

Where are you going vote?