Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat

[MasterWalks]

I'm down with a sky/Andre lynch.

I'm indifferent on w3/kdz/Oa lynch.

I'm against Rob/Serp lynch ofc. I townread Kae pretty heavy too even tho he doesn't return the favor. Also, I'm not down to kill poke at this moment. If he doesn't post this day phase then yes I say we kill him or wait for mod kill.
If I forgot anyone, it's cuz they are forgettable

Like this is one of those things where I feel MW is pretty clearly telegraphing his scumbuddies are within w3/kdz/oa.. but if www3 is scum, this is a great time to bus w3 by sheeping rob/serp vote & keep up that lost town cred

So maybe he has TMI & doesn't want to go after w3 so eagerly. This aligns with Oa's getting queasy about being the hammer on w3. So mw/oa are w/w imo

Okay so honestly, I feel the most not lost this game. I feel like my reads have been solid and i am understanding the roles, just not remembering most the names. I made that post as a half assed read list while on mobile. Im on computer now so i can make a more detailed one. I aint going to defend the scum call out, but my confidence is pretty high right now with my reads. My biggest mistake (and only real one) was tunneling torb at the beginning, and playing a hand at revealing you. I can see why you would scum read me for that, but not a read list. Trying not to tunnel now, so im focusing on andre and sky and looking into w3 and Oa, mostly cuz they are brought up quite a bit in controversy.

[serprex]

And now I think I wish I had vig'd www3 instead 

worldwideweb3 (2) - rob77dp, serprex
skyironsword (1) - MasterNoob
PlayerOa (1) - skyironsword

^--- current vote count?

No,

worldwideweb3 (2) - rob77dp
skyironsword (1) - MasterNoob
PlayerOa (1) - skyironsword
killsdazombies (1) - serprex

Let's get some competing trains on MW's neutral triumvirate

[serprex]

EBWOP

worldwideweb3 (1) - rob77dp
skyironsword (1) - MasterNoob
PlayerOa (1) - skyironsword
killsdazombies (1) - serprex

[killsdazombies]

Hey, figure now is a good a time as any. I have some reads and thoughts now, sadly my power is out. Should be up tomorrow morning, just hard to communicate a read list via mobile But I promise to get some words out, as usual though it just takes me a bit of time to sorta... figure out the first day I guess? I'll be checking the thread until my phone dies, so I can answer some questions. Though expect those to be fairly short, as quoting on mobile is the death of me.

Also poke, Great to hear from you again! Looking forward to more

[skyironsword]

Everyone trying to tunnel me is mafia, quote me.

[worldwideweb3]

I TOLD YOU ALL DO NOT VIG.

I’ll catchup once I’m home in an hours time

Vig on shock has reduced the game by 1 town distraction (sadly it turned out to be at the expense of -1 townie....). You also advocated for No Lynch right?


//who's going to tell him?

--> www3, those are the only ways town has to kill the mafia to try to win the game. 0.o

vv
Serp

v
kae

n+
Poke

n
kdz
sky
MW

n--
timpa
Oa

w
www3

The vig has resulted in 2 less towns, idk in what world thats a good thing.
I didn’t actively advocate for no lynch. Iirc, serp voted no lynch at some point too, go vig him.

[PlayerOa]

worldwideweb3 (2) - rob77dp, PlayerOa
skyironsword (1) - MasterNoob
PlayerOa (1) - skyironsword
killsdazombies (1) - serprex

[PlayerOa]

I kinda struggle to see a www3/kdz v/v tbh.

[serprex]

-snip-

The vig has resulted in 2 less towns, idk in what world thats a good thing.
I didn’t actively advocate for no lynch. Iirc, serp voted no lynch at some point too, go vig him.

It's a good thing. If you just expend a bunch of NLs at start you'll have NKs on serp/torb/rob/kae getting you down to 10 players & then you'll make 2 mislynches on sub/shock/naii resulting in game loss. This route we get to have 5 town lead town kills instead of 2

& votes are valuable information

Anyways, my NL leaning had to do with the issue of parity, which is difficult to predict with so many vigs

For instance, we can hope that Aqua is town. Coordinate 3 kill on www3/oa/kdz by end of next day which will lose if none are scum, but otherwise we'd be 3:2 by D4 if one is scum

ofc, that'd still lose if mafia have a vig

www3 v if mw w
timpa v if mw w
sky v if mw w
poe if mw w: 2 remaining in kdz/oa/poke
So scum!mw gives a bit of info, but there's a good chance mw flips v & all we've learnt is yep mw is mw

Meanwhile, all I can otherwise gather is oa/w3 w/v or v/w or v/v

w3/oa have both been lightly busing Poke, but that's understandable when you're looking to deflect as scummy town too

[worldwideweb3]

-snip-

The vig has resulted in 2 less towns, idk in what world thats a good thing.
I didn’t actively advocate for no lynch. Iirc, serp voted no lynch at some point too, go vig him.

It's a good thing. If you just expend a bunch of NLs at start you'll have NKs on serp/torb/rob/kae getting you down to 10 players & then you'll make 2 mislynches on sub/shock/naii resulting in game loss. This route we get to have 5 town lead town kills instead of 2

& votes are valuable information

Anyways, my NL leaning had to do with the issue of parity, which is difficult to predict with so many vigs

For instance, we can hope that Aqua is town. Coordinate 3 kill on www3/oa/kdz by end of next day which will lose if none are scum, but otherwise we'd be 3:2 by D4 if one is scum

ofc, that'd still lose if mafia have a vig

www3 v if mw w
timpa v if mw w
sky v if mw w
poe if mw w: 2 remaining in kdz/oa/poke
So scum!mw gives a bit of info, but there's a good chance mw flips v & all we've learnt is yep mw is mw

Meanwhile, all I can otherwise gather is oa/w3 w/v or v/w or v/v

w3/oa have both been lightly busing Poke, but that's understandable when you're looking to deflect as scummy town too

the mislynches wouldnt be happening, we have investigative roles this mafia that can get a lot of info through the night. It makes no since vigging so early, esp 2 vigs. Im inclined to believe aqua is scum.

[skyironsword]

Are you suggesting that the best strategy for town is to follow the cop? You realize that in most cases, cops will just trade for a mafia member, right?

[rob77dp]

vv
Serp

v
kae

n+
Poke

n
kdz __\
sky  \ ?
MW  \ __

n--
timpa
Oa__\ ?

w
www3 __\ ?


timpa wanna step it up the confirmed confirmed town (decreased) REALLY think you're scum