Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Spoiler for only read if you're TheonlyrealBeef:

one of the capital letters in rob's role is the letter our Team Dankness discord server name began with

Only one option comes to mind.


Just sent in my night action, I don't expect to be around until D2, save for brief peeks from mobile.

[kaempfer13]

Well for someone who's weeks plans have been cancelled we are seeing very little from Naii so we cant expect an improvement in the future.
Poke we'll have to see what he's like when he actually posts. i cant believe he would make an account for this sole purpose, only to then need a sub immediately.
Shock will probably get himself killed one way or another eventually, but he's catching up on posts and I dont read him scum.

Rob shouldnt even be on that list.

Need a ruling on when the snapshot for aqua kill will be taken to know whether Oa is even gonna be an option.

so really that just leaves Naii and the highest lowposter, which im gonna assume will be shock.

Naii: Since last time I looked at him, he continued to get caught up with TorB and discussed some mechanics. I almost missed his readlist. So his townreads are basically just sheeping me.
Still scumreading TorB, but rescinding his vote, which is kinda weird. This was after the "pr or scum"-move but before the full reveal. I can see why he would still be confused at that point in time, but i dont get why he would remove his vote when TorB is still the biggest scumread regardless.

Shock: He's playing his usual games again. rereading his posts made me remember that I have questions for sky, which is only insofar relevant for this vote that they are definitely not a team. i think my read on him on his own merits will depend quite a bit on how he justifies the Oa read. But at least he's trying now.

Naii (3) MasterNoob, serprex, kaempfer13
Shock (0)
Poke (0)

[Naii_the_Baf]

Since we're deciding to waste one shot of FTW, which, by the way, you're all adamantly assuming belongs to town, I'd like to ask one question:
If I flip town, what does town gain from my death? I believe Nightkill won't land on bottom 4 posters until there's fewer posters since it might interfere with FTW, so I can see the point of using it to some extent (mafia hiding in bottom 4), but is there anything else?

[kaempfer13]

So speaking of sky, i still don't understand what the Sublynch achieved. As it stands, it looks to me like she just sheeped 2 townies, first under the pretense of an infolynch regarding TorB/serps alignement, which should have been out of the question before EoD and later as just "it makes sense to me".
I spend a good portion of an hour trying to figure out what even the logic behind her switch from "Sub probably town, but good infolynch" to "2 town who couldn't possibly have any information on Sub vote him, so Sub scum" was. But I could find absolutely no explanation.
Now she's looking to either get  aqua to kill shock or allow herself or any of her buddies to do so without having to explain themselves.

[MasterWalks]

Since we're deciding to waste one shot of FTW, which, by the way, you're all adamantly assuming belongs to town, I'd like to ask one question:
If I flip town, what does town gain from my death? I believe Nightkill won't land on bottom 4 posters until there's fewer posters since it might interfere with FTW, so I can see the point of using it to some extent (mafia hiding in bottom 4), but is there anything else?

I see the merit in this post, but are you going to offer an alternative target? We are only down 1 town; I say it's better to use vig while we still have the advantage over scum. Also FTW has more than 1use so we can target someone later. Shock will offer less info since he apparently just info-dumped on N1, which actually sounds normal. If your argument is to holster FTW, then when would be an appropriate time to use it? We got a while to wait for serp to target someone else if Rob does pop up town, and if he's mafia then FTW can use their ability again.

[serprex]

vig on sky sounds good

[kaempfer13]

Since we're deciding to waste one shot of FTW, which, by the way, you're all adamantly assuming belongs to town, I'd like to ask one question:
If I flip town, what does town gain from my death? I believe Nightkill won't land on bottom 4 posters until there's fewer posters since it might interfere with FTW, so I can see the point of using it to some extent (mafia hiding in bottom 4), but is there anything else?

If we decide in public what aqua does she will have to oblige regardless of alignement (including her targets).
So long as you dont spam each post increases the likelihood of you being read as the (correct) alignement, so the bottom of the barrel tends to be impossible to figure out through discussion alone.
Oversimplified, if either all of town posts a lot or scum posts enough to give themselves away, we win.

[Naii_the_Baf]

Naii: Since last time I looked at him, he continued to get caught up with TorB and discussed some mechanics. I almost missed his readlist. So his townreads are basically just sheeping me.
Still scumreading TorB, but rescinding his vote, which is kinda weird. This was after the "pr or scum"-move but before the full reveal. I can see why he would still be confused at that point in time, but i dont get why he would remove his vote when TorB is still the biggest scumread regardless.

I wanted to wait and see if said read would hold given it wasn't as strong after I actually managed to snap out of confusion thanks to my honestly rather laughable observational skills.


In hindsight, we do have many vigs and there can only be so many in hands of scum, so I can see your point in vigging. Originally I would have advocated for holstering but I've changed my mind. I won't offer an alternative since it does make sense to vig me given how useless I've turned out to be this game. We have Calli anyways should I turn out to have something useful so I'm not all that willing to try and not get myself killed.

[Naii_the_Baf]

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I see the merit in this post, but are you going to offer an alternative target? We are only down 1 town; I say it's better to use vig while we still have the advantage over scum. Also FTW has more than 1use so we can target someone later. Shock will offer less info since he apparently just info-dumped on N1, which actually sounds normal. If your argument is to holster FTW, then when would be an appropriate time to use it? We got a while to wait for serp to target someone else if Rob does pop up town, and if he's mafia then FTW can use their ability again.

In hindsight, we do have many vigs and there can only be so many in hands of scum, so I can see your point in vigging. Originally I would have advocated for holstering but I've changed my mind. I won't offer an alternative since it does make sense to vig me given how useless I've turned out to be this game. We have Calli anyways should I turn out to have something useful so I'm not all that willing to try and not get myself killed.

[Naii_the_Baf]

Oops, lol, I said Calli. I meant Uruha.

[serprex]

Oops, lol, I said Calli. I meant Uruha.

?? I expect a better rez to be available

[skyironsword]

I spend a good portion of an hour trying to figure out what even the logic behind her switch from "Sub probably town, but good infolynch" to "2 town who couldn't possibly have any information on Sub vote him, so Sub scum" was. But I could find absolutely no explanation.

Not what I said. I suspected that there was a mafia member among serprex, TorB, and Sub. As it turns out, I was wrong, but that's just how Day 1 is.

Now she's looking to either get  aqua to kill shock or allow herself or any of her buddies to do so without having to explain themselves.

Would make sense if I specifically cared about killing shock. I'd like to give anti's substitute a chance to post, and we've already established that we shouldn't be targeting rob. That leaves shock, Naii, and potentially Oa. Of those three, I consider shock to be the best target, but I could be persuaded to pick one of the others.

vig on sky sounds good

A waste of a perfectly good vig shot. Don't you know I'm getting NK'd?