Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat

[skyironsword]

sky: please hard claim if you're Aqua & targeted shock last night

I hard claim not Aqua.

[rob77dp]

sky: please hard claim if you're Aqua & targeted shock last night

I think analyzing shock dying through his vest is low-reward since it is possible\likely he was sniped or double triple mega overlapped by vig roles?

[serprex]

That doesn't make any sense. There was a town planned hit on shock, so why the redundancy? I also hinted at vig shots being fine to go vs naii/sky/www3. Naii being a topic of FTW target, which was on shock

I think it's time to mass claim. Somewhere between shock/Naii there's scum vig which knew they were both priority targets. I expect mafia to tarot all the docs on their own

[skyironsword]

That doesn't make any sense. There was a town planned hit on shock, so why the redundancy? I also hinted at vig shots being fine to go vs naii/sky/www3. Naii being a topic of FTW target, which was on shock

Is it possible that shock actually saved someone using Red Heart, causing Haato to die, and then the vig shot took out Haachama?

[serprex]

That doesn't make any sense. There was a town planned hit on shock, so why the redundancy? I also hinted at vig shots being fine to go vs naii/sky/www3. Naii being a topic of FTW target, which was on shock

Is it possible that shock actually saved someone using Red Heart, causing Haato to die, and then the vig shot took out Haachama?

No because then my Torb would still be alive

[skyironsword]

No because then my Torb would still be alive

That's assuming shock picked a sensible target.

[MasterWalks]

What's saying both vigs who killed naii and shock aren't scum. The votes were tied on which to kill so if aqua targetted Shock, who ever targetted naii would almost have to know aquas target so they don't double up.

[skyironsword]

What's saying both vigs who killed naii and shock aren't scum. The votes were tied on which to kill so if aqua targetted Shock, who ever targetted naii would almost have to know aquas target so they don't double up.

Because that wouldn't be enough to kill shock. Shock has two lives.

[rob77dp]

What all kill power could be in play? Nk (town), ftw (2U) and Calli's thing, plus shock redirect ability? MW - if scum had all the vig abilities... Smh town would have been screwed in that scenario no?

[andretimpa]

No because then my Torb would still be alive

That's assuming shock picked a sensible target.

But then scum would have had to vig the same weird target. Sounds unlikely to me.

[skyironsword]

Unlikely, but not impossible.

The alternatives are that Calli killed shock, or two people shot shock in the same night. Both of those scenarios don't quite add up.

[serprex]

No because then my Torb would still be alive

That's assuming shock picked a sensible target.

Okay. There's two scenarios still questioning Mio even if shock blocked a vig on me

1: vig hits me & kills shock 1, nk hits torb, ftw hits shock 2, but who targets Naii here? It was suggested ftw could go to Naii, so it'd be redundant to send a vig on Naii unless there was confidence that sky really wanted to kill shock

2: vig hits me & kills shock 1, nk hits torb, ftw hits naii, vig hits shock 2

There's no good reason for town to send any vigs besides ftw into shock/naii. Yet there's 3 vigs involved here. I'm willing to accept a 2nd vig due to bad town, but 3?