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Who played the best mafia?

Submachine
1 (3%)
worldwideweb3
1 (3%)
PlayerOa
1 (3%)
serprex
2 (6.1%)
MasterNoob
9 (27.3%)
kaempfer13
8 (24.2%)
Pokechu
2 (6.1%)
andretimpa
0 (0%)
Naii_the_Baf
1 (3%)
rob77dp
3 (9.1%)
killsdazombies
1 (3%)
TheonlyrealBeef
0 (0%)
shockcannon
2 (6.1%)
skyironsword
2 (6.1%)

Total Members Voted: 14

Voting closed: August 12, 2021, 05:20:11 pm

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Re: Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68254.msg1305838#msg1305838
« Reply #588 on: July 23, 2021, 04:37:30 am »
For what it's worth, I personally thought of my role as having an increased chance of getting lynched. Since as opposed to any other person, I have no chance of becoming confirmed anything. So keeping cop alive as mafia would just be needlessly risking mafiabuddies. Now that his identity is publically revealed, serp will also be much harder to get rid of due to all the pseudo docs.

Yes, it's a vig. The only one that can kill me. Not certain if it bypasses doc, but I think so. Also not certain what the mod messages for vig kills are, like whether it reveals the perpetraitor. I think clarifications said no.
I have confirmation from the host that Sora's ability protects from Calli's vig because it has a higher priority.
Is that how it works. Interesting.

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Re: Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68254.msg1305839#msg1305839
« Reply #589 on: July 23, 2021, 05:11:00 am »
For what it's worth, kae asked Link whether kill messages had flavor and Link replied that only the nightkill will be distinguished from other deaths.

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Re: Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68254.msg1305840#msg1305840
« Reply #590 on: July 23, 2021, 08:19:13 am »
Okay, so if potential NK targets are (serp, torb, rob, kae) I think the best distribution is:

Calculated with relative values NK: 1, Serp: 0.6, Torb: 0.4, Rob: 0.2, Kae: 0.1

serptorbrobkae
Akai35%25%20%20%
Gawr30%30%20%20%
Yuzuki25%25%25%25%

I could share the code that came up with this conclusion, but I'd rather not if nobody wants to actually play with it as the search involved doing a counter search for how mafia should best randomly roll their NK target. Of course, if they just want a sure kill they can target sky or mw
shouldnt yuzuki prioritize the most likely one over the rest, since its the only one that works multiple times? and bloop should also prioritize the most important target a little in case of fuckery (well I suppose that one can stay where it is, but the others should flip). I'm surprised how little the spread is even though you used fairly different values for the various people.
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Re: Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68254.msg1305841#msg1305841
« Reply #591 on: July 23, 2021, 08:24:08 am »
also did you account for one of them being mafia and missing "by chance"?
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Re: Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68254.msg1305842#msg1305842
« Reply #592 on: July 23, 2021, 10:47:06 am »
also did you account for one of them being mafia and missing "by chance"?

Yes. Also accounts for possibility 2 are mafia, or 3 are mafia

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Re: Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68254.msg1305845#msg1305845
« Reply #593 on: July 23, 2021, 01:48:47 pm »
I'm pretty sure I've never ghosted this hard a game of mafia. Just havent' been able to carve out any time to read and get into it yet.... which makes the room get real dusty to type that and have it be true (no surprise to those who know my play style at all). I'm just super busy these days but plan to have some time in about 12 hours or so from now to try to read up or at least get some posting and playing/interaction going. [Seeing no votes on me at days' end is neat, and I'm curious to see if Day 1 ever had a train on me :o ]

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Re: Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68254.msg1305846#msg1305846
« Reply #594 on: July 23, 2021, 01:51:35 pm »
I'm pretty sure I've never ghosted this hard a game of mafia. Just havent' been able to carve out any time to read and get into it yet.... which makes the room get real dusty to type that and have it be true (no surprise to those who know my play style at all). I'm just super busy these days but plan to have some time in about 12 hours or so from now to try to read up or at least get some posting and playing/interaction going. [Seeing no votes on me at days' end is neat, and I'm curious to see if Day 1 ever had a train on me :o ]

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Re: Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68254.msg1305848#msg1305848
« Reply #595 on: July 23, 2021, 01:57:47 pm »
He doesn't even know, poor soul

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Re: Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68254.msg1305849#msg1305849
« Reply #596 on: July 23, 2021, 02:08:42 pm »
He doesn't even know, poor soul

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Re: Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68254.msg1305850#msg1305850
« Reply #597 on: July 23, 2021, 02:16:17 pm »
tl;dr: gn claimed (serp) and is investigating you. There should be 3 docs around and nk isnt guaranteed kill on this version of gn, so that at least should work out. TorB is in the list of doc saves since he defended serp based on insight from his pr (Sora). All of this could have been done more subtly, but there is no way they are scum pulling this.
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Re: Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68254.msg1305851#msg1305851
« Reply #598 on: July 23, 2021, 02:21:45 pm »
tl;dr: gn claimed (serp) and is investigating you. There should be 3 docs around and nk isnt guaranteed kill on this version of gn, so that at least should work out. TorB is in the list of doc saves since he defended serp based on insight from his pr (Sora). All of this could have been done more subtly, but there is no way they are scum pulling this.

You expect the guy who sent sovdials 3 times in a row into not sending sovdials once after being countered by 4 deflags before sending sovdials more to be subtle?

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Re: Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68254.msg1305852#msg1305852
« Reply #599 on: July 23, 2021, 03:04:22 pm »
Is phase timer broken?
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