Elements Mafia 77 - by Linkcat

[rob77dp]

I am not police and cannot rb anyone. Neither was nor could serp.

[skyironsword]

Rob, anything useful you can tell us before you get NK'd? I assume you'd like us to lynch w3 tomorrow if you die tonight.

[worldwideweb3]

I am not police and cannot rb anyone. Neither was nor could serp.

so kae lied?

[skyironsword]

so kae lied?

Kae clarified that they meant the Kiryu Kai ability they got from Sub.

[worldwideweb3]

so kae lied?

Kae clarified that they meant the Kiryu Kai ability they got from Sub.

Wait, so kae didnt use his oozora family ability at all?

[skyironsword]

Wait, so kae didnt use his oozora family ability at all?

Seems that way.

[rob77dp]

I'm growing concerned about Oa based on a quick read of some kdz posts when he actually tried to game post... He has three Oa centric posts with weird reads of Oa alignment and vig thought process.

[rob77dp]

Such as this one (sorry, hard doing multi quote posts on mobile)

also are all of yall usually so meta-reliant?? Not a bad thing but my folks and I don't usually put much weight in meta. So posts like KDZ's #816, it's nice to have something a bit meatier but I'm still a little unimpressed with some of the justifications. Like with Oa's.

"Feels like typical Oa stuff. I haven't seen anything overtly out of place, and I agree with most of their points."

As the new kid on the block I'm not convinced, this doesn't tickle my pickle. Which isn't to slam KDZ since I've seen reads like this come from everyone but it does make it a bit hard to really dig deep and bounce off others when I've not found an easy way to ISO

I can elaborate quickly on individuals when requested, ill do so for Oa. Several of Oas posts have lined up with my thoughts. Oas calling out of you is the most recent. I also appreciated their commentary post day 1 and their push back against shock. FURTHER they stopped a mass role claim which imo is for the best. We dont need to hang out free info to mafia. Now beyond these 4 specific things oa hasn't posted a whole bunch of content, which is why oa is only at N+ instead of V for me. (Also I thought hammer or be hammered was a choice phrase )

And always happy to help poke

[worldwideweb3]

in that case, i guess its only you who can block kae then.

[worldwideweb3]

anything from poke/any other dead players that you havent shared yet rob?

[rob77dp]

And this one here... I know focused on Oa mostly here due to that being the player with vig ability discussed at the time, but in hindsight it is deafening reading his thought about doubting advising ftw on poke due to not being sure if they're town (like WHAT?! you should always know you're more likely town if you're town as you uniquely KNOW your own alignment)

Obviously my opinion on ftw is a bit skewed, since im one of the two names realistically on that chopping block (since I doubt oa would kill himself/rob) So lets start with some basic facts

There are 9 people left in this game. Lets assume that doc is mafia/fails to protect the nk target/ forgets how to type and fails to send in a use. NK goes through and we are at 8. Both Vig shots fire and we fail on both we are at 6, a 3/3 and we just lose. For this reason, I think we should only fire one vig shot unless we are ABSOLUTELY sure about our targets. Luckily it seems like we dont have worry about someone dying to rock paper scissors since no one has claimed to be targeted by it (I think thats how the ability works yeah? Daytime target and then nighttime deathmatch? Please correct if wrong im still an idiot lmao) I'm honestly really worried at least one of the vig shots is mafia, and in that case if the town fires and misses, we just lose if mafia fires.

In my eyes, if were going to have someone shoot, it should be someone we trust to at least fire as a town. Unfortunately, we dont know who trident is (For good reason mind you, we dont need another dead doc) So for me, the only viable shooter is OA, and while to you all he has two targets, for me it comes down to if I think poke town. I'm not sure if I can confidently say one way or the other, they still exist as a sort of blank slate to me.

I really need to sit down with some paper and try to play out each scenario over dinner tonight, but I dont really have a great answer for you right now rob, but I'll spend some time and try to get rationalize a better one. I guess the first course of action is to figure out how many shots we want to fire, and the likelihood of at least one of those shots being mafia/hitting a mafia with the town shot and try to form a plan of action from there.

[rob77dp]

Nothing from poke yet, I've shared what I can (all, I believe) from others too

anything from poke/any other dead players that you havent shared yet rob?