Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex

[MasterWalks]

the only one aside from me that didn't vote last round (yes I know that's suspicious, I will do better).

Wait, are you now going back on your grabby soft claim? If so, why did you not actually cast vote? You were active as you responded to it.
Normally not voting is not suspicious since we usually attempt to hide grabby. I regret pointing out you being the only non-voter since it gave you the ability to run with graboid as a role, regardless if you actually are graboid. Honestly, lying about role early game isn't even all that sus, I did it yet no one seems to care, its only sus because of you response to Link.

[Annele]

I'm not claiming anything until we've decided we want to start narrowing down roles

[Annele]

Oh also I was thinking of math's D1 last minute vote on shock as well when I said sus voting

[MasterWalks]

Spoiler for Hidden:

http://imgur.com/a/j4Sygg5

I'm dropping the subject for now.
If we wanna kill Math next sure. Let's see if Oa got as lucky as Mafia  with his first target

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Day 1 lynch log.

Spoiler for Day 2 lynch log:

andretimpa (1) - Linkcat

andretimpa (2)- Linkcat, MasterNoob

andretimpa (2)- Linkcat, MasterNoob
worldwideweb3 (1) - TheonlyrealBeef

andretimpa (2)- Linkcat, MasterNoob
worldwideweb3 (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, iancudorinmarian

andretimpa (2)- Linkcat, MasterNoob
worldwideweb3 (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, iancudorinmarian
mathman101 (1) - worldwideweb3

andretimpa (2)- Linkcat, MasterNoob
worldwideweb3 (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, iancudorinmarian
mathman101 (2) - worldwideweb3, andretimpa

andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, MasterNoob, RootRanger
worldwideweb3 (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, iancudorinmarian
mathman101 (2) - worldwideweb3, andretimpa

andretimpa (4) - Linkcat, MasterNoob, RootRanger, Naii_the_Baf
worldwideweb3 (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, iancudorinmarian
mathman101 (2) - worldwideweb3, andretimpa

andretimpa (3) - Linkcat, RootRanger, Naii_the_Baf
worldwideweb3 (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, iancudorinmarian
mathman101 (2) - worldwideweb3, andretimpa
Annele (1) - MasterWalks

andretimpa (2) - RootRanger, Naii_the_Baf
worldwideweb3 (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, iancudorinmarian
mathman101 (3) - worldwideweb3, andretimpa, Linkcat
Annele (1) - MasterWalks

andretimpa (3) - RootRanger, Naii_the_Baf, Linkcat
worldwideweb3 (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, iancudorinmarian
mathman101 (2) - worldwideweb3, andretimpa
Annele (1) - MasterWalks

If I live long enough, maybe I'll update Day 1 (and then Day 2 as well) lynch log with updated colors when more people die, would be more motivated to do it if we finally hit a mafia Added Day 2 lynch log, so little vote swapping.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

There is something I am looking for in reads lists, but it won't do to point it out unless I get most peoples' read lists. So I would love more of those and elaborate something town should be looking into.

Didn't quite get all the reads I wanted, but I will have to make do with what we have while I live. It's quite possible we can only afford one more mislynch before town loses.

So basically my idea is that the Half Blood cannot communicate with the False Gods through mafia pad. So there are several ways to deal with that:

• False Gods don't post much and keep a low profile. This means the Half Blood can simple vote off-wagon or not at all.
• False Gods let the Half Bloods know they know who they are without lynch voting. An example could be like this. Since only False Gods or Golden Nymphs should be able to distinguish the Half Blood, this signals the Half Blood the poster is a False God. Since shock was no False God, the example itself held no meaning.
• False Gods just straight up declare their own identity.

Apart from schock's post I haven't seen much potential for the second and the third is obviously not going to happen. I was hoping the reads could hint at the second, by looking for reads that deviate from the norm.

Spoiler for Living Players:

• MasterWalks
• Naii_the_Baf
• worldwideweb3
• Linkcat
• iancudorinmarian
• mathman101
• TheonlyrealBeef
• Annele
• RootRanger

Spoiler for reads table:

Reads lists are rows, reads are columns.

List V \ Read >	MasterWalks	Naii_the_Baf	worldwideweb3	Linkcat	iancudorinmarian	mathman101	TheonlyrealBeef	Annele	RootRanger
MasterWalks	x	n-	n+	n	?	n-	n+	n-	n-
Naii_the_Baf	n+	x	n-	n			null
worldwideweb3	n+	n	x	n-	n-	n-	n-	n+	n-
TheonlyrealBeef	n+	n	n-	n	n	n	x	n	n

Spoiler for code:

Here is the code I used for placeholders of rows. First td becomes the person the read list is from, rest of names is replaced with the read on that person.

Code: (read list) [Select]

[tr]
[td]USERNAMELISTOWNER[/td]
[td]MasterWalks[/td]
[td]Naii_the_Baf[/td]
[td]worldwideweb3[/td]
[td]Linkcat[/td]
[td]iancudorinmarian[/td]
[td]mathman101[/td]
[td]TheonlyrealBeef[/td]
[td]Annele[/td]
[td]RootRanger[/td]
[/tr]

Not sure if it is just the number of reads lists missing, but this summary does not really accomplish what I was looking for... Maybe someone else can make some use of this theory/method.

[worldwideweb3]

So you were fine with math lynch as well?

Ya I don't mind. Math is just a low poster from my perspective. Low posters are automatically n- in my book unless proven otherwise.

I would like to add, I'm against voting w3 not because I 100% believe he is town, but I have proof there is a 50% chance he is not mafia. More to come in day time.

My knight in shining armour

[TheonlyrealBeef]

The odds of a random person being not mafia is currently >50%, sounds like a scumlean

[worldwideweb3]

Not my knight in shining armour

[Naii_the_Baf]

There is something I am looking for in reads lists, but it won't do to point it out unless I get most peoples' read lists. So I would love more of those and elaborate something town should be looking into.

Didn't quite get all the reads I wanted, but I will have to make do with what we have while I live. It's quite possible we can only afford one more mislynch before town loses.

So basically my idea is that the Half Blood cannot communicate with the False Gods through mafia pad. So there are several ways to deal with that:

• False Gods don't post much and keep a low profile. This means the Half Blood can simple vote off-wagon or not at all.
• False Gods let the Half Bloods know they know who they are without lynch voting. An example could be like this. Since only False Gods or Golden Nymphs should be able to distinguish the Half Blood, this signals the Half Blood the poster is a False God. Since shock was no False God, the example itself held no meaning.
• False Gods just straight up declare their own identity.

Apart from schock's post I haven't seen much potential for the second and the third is obviously not going to happen. I was hoping the reads could hint at the second, by looking for reads that deviate from the norm.

Mostly what we should be looking for is crumbs regarding their own or FGs' actions; since FGs do know who the halfblood is, the halfblood can communicate without risking the FGs' identity. Following this idea, pretty much any role claim is potentially suspicious, as it could be the halfblood letting the FGs know what they are. Since it's one-sided communication, however, FGs only have two options: respond to the halfblood by aiding them, or do nothing. Personally I haven't seen anything like it so I'm not entirely certain Halfblood has a useful role for FGs. Likely a defensive role unless anyone else has caught something.

[MasterWalks]

We really only had 4 people give reads?? We need much much more than that at the next Day or we are sure as dead.

I highly doubt Mafia targets a low poster. TORB, Link, myself, and maybe w3 are next on chopping block I'm willing to put money on it. Also since it's so close to end of the game, and town is losing, I'm willing to give info dump. Not role claiming but shouldn't be too hard to narrow down my role. I've targeted W3 and Andre in that order, neither resulted in any results. I will not say who I have targeted tonight as it's irrelevant if I die and can't share anything.

[Linkcat]

Sorry guys, I would have dropped a reads list earlier but I managed to fall asleep three separate times during this phase so haven't had much time. Here's the shitty 15 minute version.

v
MW - Has this guy even rolled mafia yet? Play and tone is consistent with previous games.

n
Torb - Hasn't done anything memorable other than the attempted reads list compilation, I expect one of us to die tonight.
Annele - Low poster but seems towny.
w3 - Was inclined to believe he was town but has now been unlynched counterwagon against two town so back to neutral.

n-
iancu - Bro, it's the second half of the game, do something.
math - Reasons stated by others

N/A
Naii - There's a read here but I don't know what it is, no time to reread thread.

Main thing that should be focused on tomorrow is finding teams of 2/3 that make sense and seeing who has the most possibilities.