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Who played the best mafia?

MasterWalks
3 (8.1%)
Naii_the_Baf
0 (0%)
worldwideweb3
4 (10.8%)
Linkcat
11 (29.7%)
PlayerOa
1 (2.7%)
shockcannon
0 (0%)
andretimpa
1 (2.7%)
iancuboringmarian
1 (2.7%)
kaempfer13
0 (0%)
mathman102 (only after sub)
6 (16.2%)
TheonlyrealBeef
10 (27%)
Annele
0 (0%)
RootRanger
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 15

Voting closed: July 08, 2021, 04:30:52 pm

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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304923#msg1304923
« Reply #156 on: June 25, 2021, 12:07:05 am »
At least that narrows down my target for today.

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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304924#msg1304924
« Reply #157 on: June 25, 2021, 12:09:34 am »
I need an adult  ?_?

I have some interesting info. I need another night or 2 to really piece it together. Can I request someone to post voting logs? Like kaempfer would usually do. I'm on mobile so too hard.

I'll start votes.
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Andre giving shock mercy to spill his guys, then hoping back on him after the info was spilled doesn't sit well with me. Not morally, but strategically. I think if he did this just to narrow down GN is pretty galaxy brain, or at least planet brained.

Did Oa soft claim gn at all? Or did mafia use info role to discover?
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304925#msg1304925
« Reply #158 on: June 25, 2021, 12:10:07 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304926#msg1304926
« Reply #159 on: June 25, 2021, 12:22:46 am »
I looked through Oa's posts but can't find anything other than sticking his vote on math. Maybe someone else can see something. If anyone had a meaningful interaction with Oa on either night you should obviously speak up now.
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304927#msg1304927
« Reply #160 on: June 25, 2021, 01:33:18 am »
Took a quick look through OAs posts and found nothing indicating a N0 target, either. It could possibly have been the Half Blood due to his reluctance to kill on sight, but more likely a town not worth emphasizing. Maybe even kaempfer13.

The whole GN discussion is something I was wary of, since I was afraid the GN might reveal itself somehow. But I couldn't name a concrete counterargument. Looking at the below post in retrospect:
Doesn’t this plan like.. collapse if someone claims GN target before GN?
It definitely seems like an objection the actual GN would come up with.
As a potential explanation of how mafia found GN this quickly. Then again, narrowing down suspects one way or another -like revealing info on roles- carries some blame as well.

I'll try coming up with a reads list and -unless someone beats me to it- lynch log in a few hours. Will cast lynch vote after reads.

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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304928#msg1304928
« Reply #161 on: June 25, 2021, 02:11:57 am »
Oa didn't stand out to me at all. I imagine either mafia got lucky or they found Oa with a role N0 (which would imply FFQ exists and is mafia), which is still getting lucky. Unlikely, sure, but possible nonetheless.

Doesn’t this plan like.. collapse if someone claims GN target before GN?
It definitely seems like an objection the actual GN would come up with.

I'm not very sure about that, given I too noted that, although not in the same fashion. Personally, I discarded Oa's post as missing something during reading. It happens all too often to me when I'm reading a good book, and tbh I'd expect such an objection would come from anyone who is at least giving the GN plan the time of day.
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304929#msg1304929
« Reply #162 on: June 25, 2021, 02:21:19 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304930#msg1304930
« Reply #163 on: June 25, 2021, 02:33:46 am »
Oa didn't stand out to me at all. I imagine either mafia got lucky or they found Oa with a role N0 (which would imply FFQ exists and is mafia), which is still getting lucky. Unlikely, sure, but possible nonetheless.

Doesn’t this plan like.. collapse if someone claims GN target before GN?
It definitely seems like an objection the actual GN would come up with.

I'm not very sure about that, given I too noted that, although not in the same fashion. Personally, I discarded Oa's post as missing something during reading. It happens all too often to me when I'm reading a good book, and tbh I'd expect such an objection would come from anyone who is at least giving the GN plan the time of day.
It's not like I think Oa stood out or anything, I was just looking at only his posts to see if there was a potential reason. There be a difference between posting a wall of text that includes that concern, and that concern being the only thing you add to the discussion :silly:

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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304931#msg1304931
« Reply #164 on: June 25, 2021, 03:15:05 am »
Spoiler for lynch log:
worldwideweb3 (1) - Linkcat
worldwideweb3 (2) - Linkcat, MasterNoob
worldwideweb3 (2) - Linkcat, MasterNoob
mathman101 (1) - TheonlyrealBeef
worldwideweb3 (2) - Linkcat, MasterNoob
mathman101 (1) - TheonlyrealBeef
Annele (1) - RootRanger
worldwideweb3 (2) - Linkcat, MasterNoob
mathman101 (1) - TheonlyrealBeef
Annele (1) - RootRanger
shockcannon (1) - iancudorinmarian
worldwideweb3 (2) - Linkcat, MasterNoob
mathman101 (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, Naii_the_Baf
Annele (1) - RootRanger
shockcannon (1) - iancudorinmarian
worldwideweb3 (2) - Linkcat, MasterNoob
mathman101 (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, Naii_the_Baf
Annele (1) - RootRanger
shockcannon (2) - iancudorinmarian, andretimpa
worldwideweb3 (2) - Linkcat, MasterNoob
mathman101 (3) - TheonlyrealBeef, Naii_the_Baf, PlayerOa
Annele (1) - RootRanger
shockcannon (2) - iancudorinmarian, andretimpa
worldwideweb3 (3) - Linkcat, MasterNoob, mathman
mathman101 (3) - TheonlyrealBeef, Naii_the_Baf, PlayerOa
Annele (1) - RootRanger
shockcannon (2) - iancudorinmarian, andretimpa
worldwideweb3 (3) - Linkcat, MasterNoob, mathman
mathman101 (3) - TheonlyrealBeef, Naii_the_Baf, PlayerOa
Annele (1) - RootRanger
shockcannon (2) - iancudorinmarian, andretimpa
Naii_the_Baf (1) - worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (3) - Linkcat, MasterNoob, mathman
mathman101 (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, PlayerOa
Annele (1) - RootRanger
shockcannon (3) - iancudorinmarian, andretimpa, Naii_the_Baf
Naii_the_Baf (1) - worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (4) - Linkcat, MasterNoob, mathman, TheonlyrealBeef
mathman101 (1) - PlayerOa
Annele (1) - RootRanger
shockcannon (3) - iancudorinmarian, andretimpa, Naii_the_Baf
Naii_the_Baf (1) - worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (4) - Linkcat, MasterNoob, mathman, TheonlyrealBeef
mathman101 (1) - PlayerOa
Annele (1) - RootRanger
shockcannon (4) - iancudorinmarian, andretimpa, Naii_the_Baf, shockcannon
Naii_the_Baf (1) - worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (3) - Linkcat, MasterNoob, mathman
mathman101 (1) - PlayerOa
Annele (1) - RootRanger
shockcannon (5) - iancudorinmarian, andretimpa, Naii_the_Baf, shockcannon, TheonlyrealBeef
Naii_the_Baf (1) - worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (4) - Linkcat, MasterNoob, mathman, shockcannon
mathman101 (1) - PlayerOa
Annele (1) - RootRanger
shockcannon (4) - iancudorinmarian, andretimpa, Naii_the_Baf, TheonlyrealBeef
Naii_the_Baf (1) - worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (3) - Linkcat, mathman, shockcannon
mathman101 (1) - PlayerOa
Annele (1) - RootRanger
shockcannon (5) - iancudorinmarian, andretimpa, Naii_the_Baf, TheonlyrealBeef, MasterNoob
Naii_the_Baf (1) - worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (4) - Linkcat, mathman, shockcannon, andretimpa
mathman101 (1) - PlayerOa
Annele (1) - RootRanger
shockcannon (4) - iancudorinmarian, Naii_the_Baf, TheonlyrealBeef, MasterNoob
Naii_the_Baf (1) - worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (3) - Linkcat, mathman, shockcannon
mathman101 (1) - PlayerOa
Annele (1) - RootRanger
shockcannon (5) - iancudorinmarian, Naii_the_Baf, TheonlyrealBeef, MasterNoob, andretimpa
Naii_the_Baf (1) - worldwideweb3
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mathman101 (1) - PlayerOa
Annele (1) - RootRanger
shockcannon (6) - iancudorinmarian, Naii_the_Baf, TheonlyrealBeef, MasterNoob, andretimpa, mathman101
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304932#msg1304932
« Reply #165 on: June 25, 2021, 03:38:12 am »
Spoiler for reads list:
Ordered by #posts at time of posting.
  • Linkcat (n) - Half serious, lots of potential breadcrumbs. Hard to get a good read on.
  • MasterWalks (n) - Would have been n+ thanks to trying to have meaningful town discussions, if not for the sus on me I do not understand.
  • andretimpa (n-) - shocks dying wish seems to be not to forgive andre, partially for narrowing down GN (whom now rests in pieces). Extending lynch vote timer is okay, but please do not do that with ties.
  • Naii the Baf (n) - Not inactive, but nothing noteworthy from my point of view (that concerns alignment).
  • worldwideweb3 (n-) - Unusually low amount of low content posts. Most suspiciously: he hasn't cried out for doc a single night yet, unlike we're used from w3. It's like he's one of fg, hb or doc. Standing out that way as doc would be rather foolish...
The rest hasn't posted enough, gets an n and the feedback to please post more. Hard to get reads otherwise.
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« Reply #166 on: June 25, 2021, 04:12:09 am »
And here we have the first reads list of the game, featuring the classic Linkcat (n) read. Some things never change. That's a good point on w3, though. Wouldn't surprise me if he was actually GA lol, maybe he'll finally be useful this game.
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304934#msg1304934
« Reply #167 on: June 25, 2021, 03:52:07 pm »
As I said before, I just dont have as much time anymore so haven't been paying much attention but am free over the weekend thankfully q.q

So now that GN is gone, is it useful to share any info as don't need to hide GN anymore or nah? Also, these false gods seem to have something against :time protect naii doc senpai

I would have expected atleast one of the first two nks to be root, link or torb so a bit of a surprise there. Wouldn't surprise me if there was a HB or FG in this trio.

Train from math in the last voting phase did disapear quickly and OA, our GN was the only one on it by the end of phase so I wonder if that is indicative of anything?
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