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Who played the best mafia?

MasterWalks
3 (8.1%)
Naii_the_Baf
0 (0%)
worldwideweb3
4 (10.8%)
Linkcat
11 (29.7%)
PlayerOa
1 (2.7%)
shockcannon
0 (0%)
andretimpa
1 (2.7%)
iancuboringmarian
1 (2.7%)
kaempfer13
0 (0%)
mathman102 (only after sub)
6 (16.2%)
TheonlyrealBeef
10 (27%)
Annele
0 (0%)
RootRanger
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 15

Voting closed: July 08, 2021, 04:30:52 pm

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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304911#msg1304911
« Reply #144 on: June 24, 2021, 06:42:37 am »
So the wagons yesterday were all on 3 of the 4 people who contributed the least. Looking through the vote history it's hard to see any votes that were made to save someone. The votes that pushed shock/w3 ahead of math came off of math, and most of the people on shock/w3 were on both at some point. The main exception to this is Naii, but w3 voted him so that doesn't go anywhere.

There are two things i want to bring attention to, though. The first is Oa's vote on math. This was the first vote that put someone to 3, and in my mind was the one that solidified the trains for the day as it caused math to put a self-pres on w3. It's Day 1 random voting so you can't put too much stock into it, but that's what I saw. The second thing is andre. Right at the deadline, shock was looking like the lynch with a 2 vote lead, but when shock said he had info, andre tied it up to pressure him to reveal it. After he did, andre switched right back to seal the lynch. The only thing this accomplished was to clear Torb from GN, which is pretty helpful for mafia to know because he's a high priority NK target. One interesting thing about this is that when andre switched his vote back, rather than changing it like normal, he copied the earlier vote instead, so his name only appears as the second vote in the final votecount instead of the hammer that it was. Maybe intentional, maybe just lazy. Either way, this is where I'm going to start looking tomorrow, I'm inclined to believe that all three trains yesterday were town.
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304912#msg1304912
« Reply #145 on: June 24, 2021, 07:43:08 am »
My belief is that vote juggling EOD, especially D1, is nothing but a huge advantage for mafia as they can O R C H E S T R A T E the lynch with ease. That’s why I wanted a train to get «early» traction, in which my percieved probability of hitting mafia is higher.
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304913#msg1304913
« Reply #146 on: June 24, 2021, 11:50:13 am »
Me copying the early vote was done for 2 reasons:
-w3 pointed out that shock/torb were switched, which was a mistake from where I copied to edit my vote tying it.
-That vote was done hastly, as there was less than a minute before NL passed.

I fully admit that I was the hammer and that it was a bad call. Maybe I should have made it clearer to shock that if he didn't had anything super useful to say it'd be better to die with it.
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304914#msg1304914
« Reply #147 on: June 24, 2021, 11:54:28 am »
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The bad call I mean was putting that much presure on him
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304915#msg1304915
« Reply #148 on: June 24, 2021, 03:05:08 pm »
My belief is that vote juggling EOD, especially D1, is nothing but a huge advantage for mafia as they can O R C H E S T R A T E the lynch with ease. That’s why I wanted a train to get «early» traction, in which my percieved probability of hitting mafia is higher.
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304916#msg1304916
« Reply #149 on: June 24, 2021, 03:13:15 pm »
Iancu, give me your thoughts on what happened yesterday.
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304917#msg1304917
« Reply #150 on: June 24, 2021, 03:15:05 pm »
Spoiler for EBWOP, don't open if you're shockcannon:

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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304918#msg1304918
« Reply #151 on: June 24, 2021, 08:08:58 pm »
Iancu, give me your thoughts on what happened yesterday.
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304919#msg1304919
« Reply #152 on: June 24, 2021, 09:12:22 pm »
I'm interested in seeing Andre's sus list. Really anyone's sus list but mostly andres
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304920#msg1304920
« Reply #153 on: June 25, 2021, 12:00:13 am »
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304921#msg1304921
« Reply #154 on: June 25, 2021, 12:03:07 am »
Day 2

PlayerOa was nightkilled. He was an Elemental & a Golden Nymph

There are 2 False Gods, 1 Half Blood, & 7 Elementals. Please note that secondary roles are independent of alignment/primary role.


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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1304922#msg1304922
« Reply #155 on: June 25, 2021, 12:03:50 am »
Well fuck
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