Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex

[MasterWalks]

worldwideweb3 (1) - Linkcat

You just want someone entertaining with you in pad when you inevitably get Lynched/NK'd

The fact Kae got NK'd on N0 makes me believe shock is on mafia's team. Shock desires to best Kae in every aspect on this forum. However, shock is pretty useful if he is on Mafia side, cuz we all know he will bus whenever he can. I'll give into Links desire for afterlife entertainment.

worldwideweb3 (1) - Linkcat, MasterNoob

[MasterWalks]

EBWOP

worldwideweb3 (2) - Linkcat, MasterNoob

[Annele]

I would vote for keeping the deadline as it is - it'd be nice to be awake for a deadline for once! But there's not much point in me being awake if no one else is lol, so I support whatever deadline time is chosen

If I got it right 20 utc would be 8am for you. Maybe we can compromise with 21?

I actually live in Australia now, so I'm 2 hours behind that, but thanks anyways!

www3 is just the default bandwagon at the start of mafia games, right?

[Linkcat]

And the middle, and the end.

Kae dying actually makes shock lean town, hard to see him giving up the chance beat him with logic once again.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

If you look at recent past mafias, killing kaempf, Link and myself tends to really kill certain discussions. So it doesn't really tell me much.

Spoiler for Half Blood discussion:

The rules are too long for me to read, but the Half Blood seems like an interesting addition. So does the half-blood just vote a townie to murder without knowing what the other actual mafia is voting? Also, if we nymphed the HB, do we immediately lynch them or keep them around since they don't count towards parity? They can still kill so I say we should kill on sight if we did nymph a HB.

Halfblood is essentially a town who wants to solve but not conclude, or at least, not share any conclusions. They're basically useless to town. I don't think they should be lynched on sight given they do count as town but then there's whether they could actually harm town with their role or not— if we do end up finding them, we might want to at least have a psion check on them.

Question for serp— does mafia know the halfblood's role?

You don't immediately kill HB, simply because an orange peak is not worth revealing Golden Nymph over. Kill priority for town is False God > Half Blood > Elemental. Killing the Half Blood does necessarily not bring victory closer, but is better than killing an Elemental. So the question on whether to kill them is heavily influenced by how likely you are to hit a False God instead.

Incidentally, should the Half Blood live long enough that the number of Elementals equals the number of False Gods, we get a really funny situation where elementals will want to try convincing the Half Blood they are False Gods.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

EBWOP: does not necessarily*

EBWOP

worldwideweb3 (2) - Linkcat, MasterNoob

Time for competing wagons and a bit of pressure.

worldwideweb3 (2) - Linkcat, MasterNoob
mathman101 (1) - TheonlyrealBeef

[RootRanger]

Sure, I'll arbitrarily throw a name down until something happens.

Also, it's been a couple years, so what's the meta on no-lynches? As in, is there an established theory for why you should or should not do it, esp if there's no hard info?

worldwideweb3 (2) - Linkcat, MasterNoob
mathman101 (1) - TheonlyrealBeef
Annele (1) - RootRanger

[Linkcat]

The meta is that you always lynch, but fight about it every game anyway.

[Linkcat]

Half Blood is kill on sight. If you Precog them don't claim, just breadcrumb it. Btw if I die and I'm Golden Nymph, my check is andre as mafia.

@Torb I hope it's you next and not me, nothing personal.

[shockcannon]

I'll reveal my role and my N1 action if the person who visited me last night comes forward.

[RootRanger]

Btw if I die and I'm Golden Nymph, my check is andre as mafia.

So if you're not GN, then andre is just a name you chose randomly yeah? Is it expected for everyone else to provide a name too to give the GN cover

[RootRanger]

I'll reveal my role and my N1 action if the person who visited me last night comes forward.

Not a fan of this personally bc every time someone reveals their role, the chance of a given player being a high-value role like Golden Nymph goes from 1/N to 1/(N-1). But I'll hear you out if you think it's still the right call