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Who played the best mafia?

MasterWalks
3 (8.1%)
Naii_the_Baf
0 (0%)
worldwideweb3
4 (10.8%)
Linkcat
11 (29.7%)
PlayerOa
1 (2.7%)
shockcannon
0 (0%)
andretimpa
1 (2.7%)
iancuboringmarian
1 (2.7%)
kaempfer13
0 (0%)
mathman102 (only after sub)
6 (16.2%)
TheonlyrealBeef
10 (27%)
Annele
0 (0%)
RootRanger
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 15

Voting closed: July 08, 2021, 04:30:52 pm

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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1305199#msg1305199
« Reply #432 on: July 01, 2021, 07:54:11 pm »
I tend to latch onto people that actually post as my beacons of hope; after my death there was only mafia left to fulfill that role. its a large contributor to why i couldnt even think of submachine as mafia in a relatively recent mafia.
I suppose even if I could have seen through you I wouldnt have guessed the team based on your needless bus day1 that almost got half of the people that mattered (for mafia) killed.

Also root was really scummy, i thought he was both more invested in mafia (so in my mind lowposting was just because he could get away with it as scum) and could have come up with better reasons to vote people, especially the andre vote was egregious (tbf i thought andre could be scum at the time too, its just the reason given behind it was both teribble and hedgy).
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1305200#msg1305200
« Reply #433 on: July 01, 2021, 08:03:47 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1305201#msg1305201
« Reply #434 on: July 01, 2021, 08:24:27 pm »
Also people who dont post (anything usefull) are kind of a -2 (if town) for town, since often a lynch has to be wasted on them, leading to another nk. Subbing in espi makes up for one noposter, but people like ian pretty much require an inforole to contribute.
Obv we are a casual community when it comes to mafia, so just banning people that often dont end up contributing is not the way to go. But maybe we can somehow adjust the rules such that its easier to contribute when you have no clue how the game works and that somehow make it easier to deal with inactives (dedicated subslots or faster modkills are the usual solutions, but necessarily make the player pool smaller).
Most mafias are daystart btw to circumvent the "killed before you could do anything"-problem, but we need the nightstart since here many people dont know to do anything at all until there are some hard facts.
Also it seems like even in the games that do get solved all the action comes lategame. It is kind of an inherent problem to mafia, but i think in this community its much more pronounced than in others. Perhaps its because it takes longer here for the average player to post enough to be evaluated fairly.

Btw Link, what was it with you going so hard after your teammates this game? These were perfect circumstances to powerwolf (inactive town plus extravoting power for your side).
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1305202#msg1305202
« Reply #435 on: July 01, 2021, 08:28:18 pm »
we could probably expect Espi to join the next one

Too busy being popular and famous
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Also people who dont post (anything usefull) are kind of a -2 (if town) for town, since often a lynch has to be wasted on them, leading to another nk. Subbing in espi makes up for one noposter, but people like ian pretty much require an inforole to contribute.
Obv we are a casual community when it comes to mafia, so just banning people that often dont end up contributing is not the way to go. But maybe we can somehow adjust the rules such that its easier to contribute when you have no clue how the game works and that somehow make it easier to deal with inactives (dedicated subslots or faster modkills are the usual solutions, but necessarily make the player pool smaller).
Most mafias are daystart btw to circumvent the "killed before you could do anything"-problem, but we need the nightstart since here many people dont know to do anything at all until there are some hard facts.
Also it seems like even in the games that do get solved all the action comes lategame. It is kind of an inherent problem to mafia, but i think in this community its much more pronounced than in others. Perhaps its because it takes longer here for the average player to post enough to be evaluated fairly.

Yup
It's why I don't join these mafias
I did come up with a ruleset ages ago that fixed the problem by having people vote for a small change to the rules each day, in addition to who should be lynched. If done well it would get people talking, but I've lost that ruleset ages ago.

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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1305203#msg1305203
« Reply #436 on: July 01, 2021, 08:37:16 pm »
we could probably expect Espi to join the next one
Too busy being popular and famous
sorry pup
Too busy being the embodiment of internet meme culture?

If we truly play casually, then we shouldn't be worried about starting in day phase. Plus it will bring No Lynch back into the meta. I don't think any of the "good" players play all that seriously, it's just the nubs like me who go sweaty
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1305204#msg1305204
« Reply #437 on: July 01, 2021, 08:39:11 pm »
No no, we start with night phase but just no nightkill
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« Reply #438 on: July 01, 2021, 08:42:52 pm »
No no, we start with night phase but just no nightkill
Oh I like this more. We can still use ability then. +1 N0 no nk
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1305206#msg1305206
« Reply #439 on: July 01, 2021, 08:50:52 pm »
I did powerwolf. The bus D1 was insurance for a red check and I only threw light shade on Torb.
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1305207#msg1305207
« Reply #440 on: July 01, 2021, 08:56:30 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1305208#msg1305208
« Reply #441 on: July 01, 2021, 09:16:22 pm »
Hilariously iancu actually had the best voting record.
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1305209#msg1305209
« Reply #442 on: July 01, 2021, 09:23:16 pm »
Got the Linkcat read (guess?) at least, so that's neat. Guess I should have posted more, although it's always hard to make substantive decisions (lynches) based on insubstantial information (reads). Should have just done so anyways, looks like.

It did feel pretty rough to only have 3 chances to lynch a mafia, but then again, maybe I should've just lynched correctly lol.
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Re: Elements Mafia 76 - by serprex https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=68249.msg1305210#msg1305210
« Reply #443 on: July 01, 2021, 09:56:08 pm »
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