Elements Mafia 75 - by rob77dp

[PlayerOa]

@kae: Switch with me on Naii, I really don't believe you are mafia and I don't want to vote on you. It's unlikely I'll be able to be online before the deadline as well.
I'm also willing to switch on Coffee if Oa switches with me.

Lynching Coffee is an interesting case because if he flips town, kaempfer's theory of Coffee/me as w/w can be debunked for good. If he flips mafia, though, I seem to be in a bad spot due to said theory - but I'd happily bow down as a consequence of hitting scum.

Why is this a priority for you? you said earlier that you townread coffee as well, so all this serves is to make you look better (actually regardless what coffee flips considering you would bus him on a whim if w/w), which is actually really scummy tbh. Its obv very hard to actually get votes on you as is, so town!you should be happy with that and focus on actually solving the game. If you dont think lynching coffee will bring us closer to the solution then dont suggest it.
I appreciate the support, but I have to question your motivation is.

So, first of all, I didn't suggest anything. This was a plain response to Calindu's request on moving the votes over to Coffee, which I never did. Secondly, I don't necessarily want to lynch Coffee. I've been (slightly) townreading him throughout the duration of this whole game, and while I don't believe he's scum, I can't ignore the fact there's a slight chance he is. The only scenario I can see myself lynching Coffee in, with todays game state, is self preservation tbh. So please don't imply killing Coffee is a priority for me when it's the opposite.

Naii flipping green surprises me. How did Ghost work with Fate Egg, again? Does it replace the Fate Egg role, or just the latest secondary for one cycle, or only potential Crusader/Vulture grabbed roles?

[PlayerOa]

Wait nvm guess this was the role he received at the start of the day and subsequently he can't have used it yet

[kaempfer13]

It replaces all of them; a vulture gn, crusader sth, fate egg+ nightly role becomes a wet towel as soon as the gotp dies even after their role has changed. If you have no way of making an educated guess about the targets alignement its a kinda scummy role to use (shockhate intensifies).

[kaempfer13]

Updating roleclaims (only displaying alive and relevant dead ones):
Public roleclaims
me: n0 oty failed to kill serp
n1 gave momentum to andre
n2 no claim

Naii: n0 if it was claimed i missed it
n1 Anubis, claims no use
n2 deja cal

cal: n0 dragonfly on serp; saw andre and dead town target serp
claims targeting self n1 (amber nymph)
n2 deja naii

shockcannon: gotp on me n0
n1 psion on andre failed due to anubis on andre
n2 iridium warden holstered

nae: n0 green nymph self
n1 anubis self
n2 no claim iirc

Oa: n0 anubis on noone
n1 deja with moe
n2 no claim iirc

kdz: claims seraph n1
no other claims iirc

MW: n0 deja with coffee
n1 dragonfly on nae failed (mostly confirming naes self targeting), caught coffees firefly confirming his claim

timpa: n0 green nymph on serp
n1 psion on calindu
n2 no claim

coffee: n0 deja
N1 ffq on mw no result
n2 no claim

Anubis suspects:
Tier 0 cleared by dead town:
Coffee, Nae

Tier 1 cleared (completely) by other living players:
Calindu

Tier 1.5 cleared mostly by living players:
timpa: do I believe its him? no. Could it be? yes. He simply requires an accomplice that knew Calindus role n1. This would be a psion fakeclaiming their target (and role unless shock) or Calindu himself. Its a longshot ofc.

kaempfer13: timpa confirms he got targeted by momentum. Possible accomplices are again calindu and people lower on this list.

Tier 2 (cleared by self claim):
shockcannon: He knew beforehand that timpa wasnt targetable (or he was blocked but obv it wasnt the latter), which is easily explained by his psion targetting failing. If he or his partner were the Anubis he'd also know this though.

Oa: moe never confirmed his deja claim, nor was his n0 anubis claim confirmed. either would be clearing him ofc, but as things are all it does is that if he lied he exposed himself to psion twice and dragonfly once, which is a small risk to take.

kdz: claimed seraph n1.

I dont feel like tinfoiling a calindu+timpa world and I know its not me, hence I will only examine people in Tier 2.

[kaempfer13]

oh yh forgot to mention the world where timpa and I are a team, lol 

[andretimpa]

oh yh forgot to mention the world where timpa and I are a team, lol 

[Naesala]

N2 I claimed Phoenix

[kaempfer13]

true, i forgot; not really relevant for now I think though so i will not make an ebwop until another night with claims comes or more mistakes come up.

[shockcannon]

The tempered forest speaks with strong barks.

[kaempfer13]

Spoiler for lynchlog:

Spoiler for bonus n0:

shockcannon(1) kaempfer13

shockcannon (1) - kaempfer13
No vig (1) - TheonlyrealBeef
kaempfer13 (1) - serprex

shockcannon (1) - kaempfer13
No vig (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, Calindu
kaempfer13 (1) - serprex
Linkcat (1) - MasterWalks

shockcannon (1) - kaempfer13
No vig (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, Calindu
kaempfer13 (1) - serprex
Linkcat (1) - MasterWalks
serprex (1) - Coffeeditto

Spoiler for Day1:

shockcannon(1) kaempfer13

no lynch(1)kaempfer13

no lynch(2) - kaempfer13, worldwideweb3

no lynch (2) - kaempfer13, worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (1) - MasterWalks


no lynch (2) - kaempfer13, worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (4) - MasterWalks, Linkcat, Killdazombies, Naesala

no lynch (2) - kaempfer13, worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (4) - MasterWalks, Linkcat, killsdazombies, Naesala
MasterWalks (1) - Coffeeditto


no lynch (2) - kaempfer13, worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (4) - MasterWalks, Linkcat, killsdazombies, Naesala
MasterWalks (2) - Coffeeditto, PlayerOa

no lynch (1) - worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (4) - MasterWalks, Linkcat, killsdazombies, Naesala
MasterWalks (2) - Coffeeditto, PlayerOa
shockcannon (1) - kaempfer13

no lynch (2) - worldwideweb3, shockcannon
worldwideweb3 (4) - MasterWalks, Linkcat, killsdazombies, Naesala
MasterWalks (2) - Coffeeditto, PlayerOa
shockcannon (1) - kaempfer13


no lynch (2) - worldwideweb3, shockcannon
worldwideweb3 (5) - MasterWalks, Linkcat, killsdazombies, Naesala, iancudorinmarian
MasterWalks (2) - Coffeeditto, PlayerOa
shockcannon (1) - kaempfer13

Not voting:

moehrpi
Naii_the_Baf
andretimpa
Calindu

Spoiler for day2:

iancudorinmarian (1) - kaempfer13
Calindu (1) - andretimpa

iancudorinmarian (2) - kaempfer13, killsdazombies
Calindu (1) - andretimpa

Not voting:

3. PlayerOa
4. Coffeeditto
5. MasterWalks
6. Naesala
8. shockcannon
9. iancudorinmarian
13. moehrpi
14. Naii_the_Baf
16. Calindu

Spoiler for Day3:

Naii_the_Baf (1) - PlayerOa
killsdazombies (1) - Naii_the_Baf

Naii_the_Baf (2) - PlayerOa, andretimpa
killsdazombies (1) - Naii_the_Baf

Naii_the_Baf (2) - PlayerOa, andretimpa
Calindu (1) - Naii_the_Baf

Naii_the_Baf (2) - PlayerOa, andretimpa
Calindu (2) - Naii_the_Baf, killsdazombies
Coffeeditto (1) - kaempfer13

Naii_the_Baf (3) - PlayerOa, andretimpa, Naesala
Calindu (2) - Naii_the_Baf, killsdazombies
Coffeeditto (1) - kaempfer13

Naii_the_Baf (2) - PlayerOa, Naesala
Calindu (2) - Naii_the_Baf, killsdazombies
Coffeeditto (2) - kaempfer13, andretimpa


Naii_the_Baf (3) - PlayerOa, Naesala, Calindu
Calindu (2) - Naii_the_Baf, killsdazombies
Coffeeditto (2) - kaempfer13, andretimpa

Extension (7) - andretimpa, PlayerOa, Coffeeditto,Naii_the_Baf, kaempfer13, killsdazombies, Naesala  people not caring for an extension (or absent before decision): shockcannon, calindu

Naii_the_Baf (3) - PlayerOa, Naesala, Calindu
Calindu (2) - Naii_the_Baf, killsdazombies
Coffeeditto (2) - kaempfer13, andretimpa
kaempfer13 (1) - shockcannon

Naii_the_Baf (3) - PlayerOa, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (2) - Naii_the_Baf, killsdazombies
Coffeeditto (1) -andretimpa
kaempfer13 (2) - shockcannon, Naesala

Naii_the_Baf (2) - PlayerOa, Calindu
Calindu (2) - Naii_the_Baf, killsdazombies
Coffeeditto (2) -andretimpa, kaempfer13
kaempfer13 (2) - shockcannon, Naesala

Naii_the_Baf (2) - PlayerOa, Calindu
Calindu (3) - Naii_the_Baf, killsdazombies, andretimpa
Coffeeditto (1) - kaempfer13
kaempfer13 (2) - shockcannon, Naesala

Naii_the_Baf (3) - PlayerOa, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (3) - Naii_the_Baf, killsdazombies, andretimpa
kaempfer13 (2) - shockcannon, Naesala

Naii_the_Baf (4) - PlayerOa, Calindu, kaempfer13, killsdazombies
Calindu (1) - andretimpa
kaempfer13 (3) - shockcannon, Naesala, Naii_the_Baf

Naii_the_Baf (5) - PlayerOa, Calindu, kaempfer13, killsdazombies, andretimpa
kaempfer13 (3) - shockcannon, Naesala, Naii_the_Baf
Not voting: Coffeeditto

[kaempfer13]

The tempered forest speaks with strong barks.

Shall i add your green nymph claim?

[andretimpa]

The tempered forest speaks with strong barks.

grabboid, got it