Elements Mafia 75 - by rob77dp

[iancudorinmarian]

wow

[kaempfer13]

Upon rethinking i really think its Oa. Sure he exposed himself twice to getting rolecoped or traced, but e.g. aint it convenient that his dejapartner was the guy who wouldnt log in. Also why would you slowroll that other than wanting to avoid suspicion in the moment?
Additionally there is some  delicious irony in that, given that  andre pulled the same move in the mafia hosted by oa and oa considered it a good move.
Maybe naii just seems to obv a choice to me plus i just dont think he'd do that and kdz i townread. Everyone else has an alibi backed by another person, except shock, but i got the impression he was telling the truth.

[PlayerOa]

moe had hard drive trouble. Sure, it might seem convenient, but he considered getting himself modkilled, which I tried talking him away from. Didn’t want to interfere too much with that, figured he’d at least try to get in a post here. Maybe slowrolling was a wrong move but whatever, hindsight is a nice thing

I even was anubis in N0, so it’s literally impossible it could have been me.

[Calindu]

btw, we could test Cal's claim by having him target Nae, depending on what he rolled this night.

Seems pretty silly to me you want to test if I have momentum or not tbh, you know my role and it is a good effect to have, why would I not use it on myself?
I also can't target anyone tonight, so the whole plan kind of doesn't work.

[killsdazombies]

The mafia are hiding in a sea of inactivity at this point. We just need some meaningful discussion and reads.

I'll be posting the read list by the end of today, and I'd at least like some thoughts from everyone else. As we can see, without the handful of influential voices driving conversation things are rather dead. This isn't the old mafia where we can win via pms and role use. Given how random everything is solving is a little tricky, so we need to be active and communicate our thoughts. Again, read lists and everyone who can vote needs to. Also, any red checks should be reported immediately

[shockcannon]

I'm targeting coffee tonight.
Within the earth lies the secrets of the elements.

[Coffeeditto]

I’m targetting shockcannon tonight.

[MasterWalks]

Basic Read list:

N+
Coffee
Shock

N
Nae
andre
kdz

N-
Oa
kaempf
Naii
Cal

[PlayerOa]

Only small changes to my readlist from a couple of days ago - these have been some dull days in topic:

v
andretimpa

n+
kdz, Coffeeditto

n
kaempfer, shock, MW, Calindu

n-
Naesala, Naii

Spoiler for changes from last readlist:

v
andretimpa

n+
kdz, moehrpi, Coffeeditto

n
kaempfer, Naii, shock, MW, Calindu

n-
Naesala, MW, Calindu, iancu, Naii

While I'm not happy with kaempfer's arguments, considering how far off they are, it does look like a genuine attempt at solving, and I'm almost willing at putting him at n+. The MW/Cal/Naii swaps are mostly due to Anubis likelyhood. Although I yet again want to reiterate that giving timpa immaterial does not always necessarily compute to being scum.

Additionally there is some delicious irony in that, given that  andre pulled the same move in the mafia hosted by oa and oa considered it a good move.

lol. Was an OK move in 73 due to serp being confirmed town and an obvious healer target. I still found it a bit.. ballsy, tbh. Led to a witch hunt that took timpa down and Ge0 with him. This is a completely different game tho... If I were scum, I would have been veeeery careful on throwing immaterial around, due to paranoia from the exact same scenario you're trying to shame me on. The narrative is good, I'll give you that, but unfortunately in this case it's wrong and only a red herring that will lead us nowhere

[kaempfer13]

Nah letting us hunt for the culprit and potentially mislynch people for that reason alone is def a scummove. There is no point deflecting from anubis at this point in time.

[PlayerOa]

Nah letting us hunt for the culprit and potentially mislynch people for that reason alone is def a scummove. There is no point deflecting from anubis at this point in time.

Alright then, I gotta admit I've lost track, what's the pool of possible Anubises?

[Naii_the_Baf]

It's only me, I believe. Made a check on everyone's claims.

Here is what I gathered, jfr:
Oa: Deja Vu
kae: Amber Nymph
andre: Psion
Naii: Anubis
Cal: Amber Nymph
MW: Dragonfly
kdz: No targets, dunno role
Coffee: FFQ
shock: Blocked, dunno role
Nae: Targeted self, dunno role
Link was town Anubis.
Oa claimed moe was Deja; moe hadn't so much as logged in so it doesn't matter anyway.
ian wasn't scum but he could also have been Anubis.

Nae has an alibi, shock sorta, kdz not really.

I could be confused between current roles and previous ones since some early claims are mixed in with the posts I'm basing myself on, so do correct me if you find a mistake.
Someone could be lying (must be, in fact, but I can't prove that right now).

Will post a readslist in a bit.