There is a reason i stayed up extra long and went on and on about vig leashing, because peole here hate correct vig play and lynch any missing vig. I was the only one supporting shockvig (wth even is going on) halfofficial votes were unuseable and about half the players each (some both) supported gn kill or holszering. Serprex was the only choice and my last post males that clear.
Well, given that everyone seems to say holster (which I consider stupid) or kill gn claim for vig, i suppose its become a debate of losing a peek + a townie ( rather than also the vigshot which you guys happily want to throw away) for all vultures becoming gn
This is not indicative of a decision in any direction, it only represents remorse for not being able to vig shock without looking scummy and a reluctant comparison between options of outcomes.
Oh lol, rob just messaged me that i was roleblocked and he sent me the wrong message. Cmon dude who's gonna believe me that? I know its angly, but you have to confirm that as it caused major confusion.
Still waiting on rob to confirm this.
I feel like noting that if serp hadnt flipped scum I would have eyed Linkcat with great suspicion (despite me choosing the same action) as his leadup was horrible. he said a gn shouldnt be devoured against their will and encouraged use of abilities on serp that he knew would fail.
This is just self-contradictory.. You're scumreading someone else for choosing to do something that you yourself also purportedly did. So you're admitting that the two scenarios here are that one of you bussed or you only townread Link for hitting mafia? That also goes against how you keep posting about town interpereting vig roles, and how you believe they should not be alignment indicative based on how their target flips.
This probably sounds really dumb because im voting shock for policy, but i think serp would have townpeeked shock regardless of shock's alignement. For scum!shock it would be the only way to live, for town!shock it would mean he becomes unlynchable and thus can continue playing solitaire in a round of scat, which is obviously bad for his teammates.
This is a valid point, in that serp's wanting to check shock would have resulted in an inno. Towncred for bringing this to light, but only as is juxtaposed against my other points. The pushing on shock over and over like I am with you is interesting though, because you don't have much to work off of with him.
Okay, can we get some sort of clarification here? Because this is pretty important and I don't take lightly to someone immediately placing blame on me, especially since I did not have a role blocking role last night. So the only options here are:
1.) kaempf got that message because he RNGed second devour, and therefore since Linkcat already killed, his action failed
2.) someone else roleblocked kaempf for real, probably to frame me, since I said I was going to target kaempf
3.) kaempf is lying for some reason. The only that I can think of is to get an easy lynch on me and avoid providing wagonomics on others, which he knows is a safe play and unlikely to hurt his town cred even if I flip town.
So yeah, either kaempf or rob really needs to clarify some stuff here.
This is a pretty solid post and raises more questions for robrules and for kae's claim. I townread this for having outed all feasible possibilities other than shock lying.
Should investigative roles claim what they have seen last night? Or should they wait for more claims from everyone and only claim if they spot a lie?
I would out it now, to be honest. Roles switch every night and it may narrow who can be what role, but with the possibility to roll vulture or crusader and get GN i see this as a minimal issue. The roles switching is more incentive to have that slight protection. I would be wary of fake claims.
derp i forgot its 12vs2 now so we have 10 nights guaranteed without vigs and lynches.
derpclear not granted
I think i'd like to hear from a wider range of people before I put my full support behind this plan. I know torb was fairly firmly on board, but I'd like to hear from some other voices. For now though I tentatively place my support.
I agree with this but am tentatively against NLing; i would also like to hear why you have switched to voting w3 so readily after having asked for more opinions and only hearing that of Link's.
I would like to hear from Naii, Calindu, ian, MasterWalks and moe in general, less fillerish content from Nae, w3 and to an extent andre, and opinions about the lynches from shock.
no lynch (2) - kaempfer13, worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (4) - MasterWalks, Linkcat, killsdazombies, Naesala
MasterWalks (1) - Coffeeditto
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