Elements Mafia 75 - by rob77dp

[andretimpa]

Also, gotta remember that town actually needs to play to win.

[DoubleCapitals]

... we'll never hear the end of this.

[kaempfer13]

I maintain that using Anubis under any circumstances is scummy. Even if the target cant be saved from the nk anyway, inability to verify their alignement is just too big a drawback. In order for it to ever be actually worth using you need a guarantee that noone will attempt to use gn on them or it needs some kind of buff such as doesnt prevent gn or protects from the next nk.

[kaempfer13]

And with how inactive town was it was pretty much the only lead since you didnt breadcrumb

[worldwideweb3]

Town was inactive cause u lunched me

[kaempfer13]

Nvm that scum using anything but psion on potential sader!gn instead of just the nk is silly, so you're only protecting from psion and dumb town

[serprex]

Imagine wasting a GN check on timpa

[Linkcat]

Checking a GN is worthless, they'll be NK'd no matter what. There's no downside.

Had Oa pegged from N2, but put Nae over shock. Turns out he plays mafia pretty much the same as town, so that's good to know.

Best player poll is up. Feedback on this setup is also appreciated.

[kaempfer13]

Actually in many setups it is worth checking gn, we're just so used to it being guaranteed town (which it isnt here). also, you are assuming everyone understood timpa was gn and thus wouldnt feel the need to investigate before hand, in which case he wouldnt survive since that would extend to mafiamembers. Also regular info roles may not be important but other than psion are more protown than not.
And shock did play different, it took him a while to figure out that not being as irratating as usual actually gave him away and then he abandoned the rolehunt for no reason, also I think he was even more ignorant of reason than before. Only 2 things stopping me from continously scumreading him were that he seemed at odds with anubis and that oa was also sorta scummy ... go figure.
Admittedly, i started pushing shock initially just because I needed a good target for oty when there was no info yet, but then he was also more subdued than usaul like he was facing a situation he wasnt used too.

[kaempfer13]

So the message i received n0 was actually intended for me, just contained information I wasnt supposed to have? Also imagine how different the game would have been if the rand picked me
(or I didnt give into pear pressure and just nommed shock lol)

[Linkcat]

Let's say I didn't target andre and someone checked him this game. No matter what happens, he still gets killed on N3. What would have been gained? Nothing. Andre being immaterial forces checks on other people, all of which would have been useful other than MW and kdz.

[kaempfer13]

You are assuming that immortality automatically redirects checks, when it really prevents them; perhaps if you had claimed your target what you said would apply, but you didnt.
Even if everything you said applied, in order for it to accomplish anything at all, the mafia must have been fooled, which (statistically) means villagers have been fooled, at which point your ability use is completely inexplicable to them and a witch hunt inevitable the moment someones ability fails (because roleblocking is even harder to justify then random vig).