Elements Mafia 75 - by rob77dp

[andretimpa]

It would be hilarious if w3 is the GN 

[serprex]

So if GN does claim, will mafia actually kill them? The sooner GN dies the sooner we can have multiple GNs. I say GN claims and a kill role kills them off since its unlikely maf will use NK on them.

shock & I are deja vus

You AND shock rolled deja N0? seems unlikely.

Oh, I didn't think deja was actually a role in this game. I was just shit posting. Or maybe I was soft hinting why I might be protecting shock from a policy lynch tomorrow

[andretimpa]

well, being a deja is NAI this game anyway

[Naesala]

Oh shit we started.

Uhhhhhhhh smarter people than me already seem to have a plan so lets do that? GN suicide?

[MasterWalks]

GN Suicide yes. Somone munch linkcat

[kaempfer13]

Ok so the tradeoff is a towncontrolled kill, a peek and the gn claimee almost guaranteed to be town vs all future vultures becoming gn permanently.
That equates to about 3 peeks in cost and leaves us at 11vs3. There is ~50% chance of at least one town!vulture coming tomorrow  which could have up to 3 peeks (night 2,4 and 6), odds later on dont get much worse but result in notably less peeks. Its worth noting that kill roles are probably going to come up left and right, so i expect the game to end by ~n4.
However later peeks are more likely to hit scum (unless things are already going really well), so actually its pretty complicated to determine whether its worth going for it. Its surprising its worth considering at all though.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

If a Golden Nymph does die this way, you will also notice that it is probably no longer beneficial to random vig. Indeed, even no lynch is something worth considering to increase the cop to mafia ratio. This is because lynches will no longer be town's main way of gathering information: the growing army of cops is.

[Linkcat]

GN should claim, but as town we should decide not to eat them if they don't want to be eaten, otherwise it's pretty unlikely they'll actually claim. I at least will not be eating them against their will. I'll probably just eat w3 since it will make me laugh the most.

[serprex]

I'd prefer not to be eaten so that town can know whether or not to lynch shock asap

[andretimpa]

Both nomming or not have its benefits. Nomming gives us more cops down the line, while not nomming gives us a peek and doesn't hamstrings Otys. Leaving it up to the GN seems fair.

[Linkcat]

Alright guys, enough messing around. I finally looked at my role PM. I won't say what it is, but it rhymes with Kind Slayer.

[Naesala]

Alright guys, enough messing around. I finally looked at my role PM. I won't say what it is, but it rhymes with Kind Slayer.

The Rind Player is too powerful a role please nerf