Elements Mafia 75 - by rob77dp

[Naesala]

I dont think adren affects the voting

Oh, I misread. My bad.

[rob77dp]

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[Naii_the_Baf]

Something that's uncomfortable is the amount of players who have claimed Anubis straight up. Like, there's been an unusual amount. These are potential suspects as well, who could be claiming their role correctly in case someone used psion on them, but are lying about usage, since they realized they did not get caught.

Keep in mind Dragonfly and FFQ are a thing too. The reason I claimed Anubis so early into D2 as opposed to waiting a bit before claiming was because Anubis activity happened, and Psion or either aforementioned roles may exist. I would rather both claim on my own and do it as soon as possible, as a later claim could have well put me under more fire than I already am in for just claiming the scummy role. I did so before knowing everyone's targets/roles as well; it's kinda stupid to risk it so much when anyone could have gotten either of those and targeted you, no? I find Anubis claims more credible the sooner they were made.

[Naii_the_Baf]

EXTENDED 24HRS.

DAY 3 has concluded.

A timer update would be nice as well.

[rob77dp]

Timer extended as well.

[kaempfer13]

shock your case is so ridiculous I really dont feel like addressing it. But  I will point out some flaws, as you really seem to believe it.
re: kdz and me taking a free lynch: this necessarily means that naii is town so why would we even care? in fact naii is the better choice for lynch as there is absolutely no hope of ian clearing himself ever through nonmechanical means.
First part is pretty much just you justifying your role usage, so at most id have to address your flymsy n0 read that was probably fueled by me pushing for an early vig on someone where i wouldnt regret it (since i did get oty n0 and except for the resident sleeper scenario where gn dies n0 and vultures accumulate over time its better to use all the townkp (kp=killpower)you get; now that did happen and i only figured out the next day that that very nonstandard play is actually mechanically optimal; hence my 180 on pushing for noone to die the following day); still wouldnt regret it considering your post.
2nd part other than ian lynch is just you asserting that i roleswapped with my mafiapartner, who necessarily got amber nymph then and in case of not cal also lied about their role. Incidentally the only candidates for that scenario are also the people that could have been anubis in the first place, so I'm not sure why you are taking that extrastep in the first place.
Agreed that naii and oa are prime candidates for anubis.

[kaempfer13]

@shock did you target me?

I accidentally clicked post before finishing my previous post.

I was Anubis last night. I didn't use it.

Something that's uncomfortable is the amount of players who have claimed Anubis straight up. Like, there's been an unusual amount. These are potential suspects as well, who could be claiming their role correctly in case someone used psion on them, but are lying about usage, since they realized they did not get caught.

Keep in mind Dragonfly and FFQ are a thing too. The reason I claimed Anubis so early into D2 as opposed to waiting a bit before claiming was because Anubis activity happened, and Psion or either aforementioned roles may exist. I would rather both claim on my own and do it as soon as possible, as a later claim could have well put me under more fire than I already am in for just claiming the scummy role. I did so before knowing everyone's targets/roles as well; it's kinda stupid to risk it so much when anyone could have gotten either of those and targeted you, no? I find Anubis claims more credible the sooner they were made.

Hold up. Look at the timing of those posts. Naii had no way of knowing anubis would be rolehunted at the time that he claimed it, unless he is the culprit after all (and he wanted to claim it even earlier). he might have slipped here.

[kaempfer13]

I guess sometimes the obvious is just correct after all
Naii_the_Baf (4) - PlayerOa, Naesala, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (2) - Naii_the_Baf, killsdazombies
Coffeeditto (1) -andretimpa
kaempfer13 (1) - shockcannon

[kaempfer13]

readlist:
v
andretimpa

n+
calindu
nae

w
coffee

Anubis candidates (these are pretty volatile as i think exactly one of them is scum, obv i am talking about the anubis that did target timpa so nae is clear from that)
v
killsdazombies
n+
shockcannon (yh he actually is back inside his townmeta; trust me I would have kept on pushing him if his psion claim didnt feel honest; doesnt change the fact he's a good policy lynch at any stage of the game other than lylo or him being mechanically cleared)
n-
PlayerOa (yh this is pretty much based on my theory that is probably equally wild as shocks assertions, but at least it is strategically sound, while any of my potential partners would end up taking the fall when oa could be teamed with coffee)
w
Naii_the_Baf I suppose he's just the anubis after all.

[kaempfer13]

I suppose I should say that oa is at at least n+ if one of the other candidates flips scum.

[andretimpa]

Naii_the_Baf (3) - PlayerOa, Calindu, kaempfer13
Calindu (2) - Naii_the_Baf, killsdazombies
Coffeeditto (1) -andretimpa
kaempfer13 (2) - shockcannon, Naesala

Correcting the vote count. Nae had switched from Naii to kae

[Naii_the_Baf]

Hold up. Look at the timing of those posts. Naii had no way of knowing anubis would be rolehunted at the time that he claimed it, unless he is the culprit after all (and he wanted to claim it even earlier). he might have slipped here.

Wrong. I claimed anubis AFTER shock said his ability failed. Since I had one of the roles that could make an ability fail, I claimed. It's true that I couldn't have known that exactly Anubis would be the role hunted, but I did know it was one of the (four, I think?) possibilities.

I considered waiting to share, but I suppose I'll go first and then info roles can maybe catch something. So, my ability failed last night, which means someone role blocked me or I hit an immortal.

I consider both to be pretty indicative of a mafia, especially given this particular fate egg game.

I accidentally clicked post before finishing my previous post.

I was Anubis last night. I didn't use it.