Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword

[skyironsword]

Day 6 has ended.

Spoiler for Final Vote Tally:

Submachine (3) - TheonlyrealBeef, kaempfer13, iancudorinmarian

Night 6 will begin shortly. Please wait warmly.

[skyironsword]

Night 6

Submachine was lynched. He was Yae Sakura.

Spoiler for Living Players:

• TheonlyrealBeef
• iancudorinmarian
• kaempfer13
• Coffeeditto

Spoiler for Dead Players:

• shockcannon (Day 1 Lynch) Rita Rossweisse
• Linkcat (Night 1 Nightkill) Theresa Apocalypse
• dawn to dusk (Night 1 Abyssal Flower) Shigure Kira
• Naii_the_Baf (Day 2 Lynch) Rozaliya Olenyeva
• PlayerOa (Night 2 Nightkill) Cocolia
• MasterWalks (Day 3 Lynch) Kiana Kaslana
• moehrpi (Night 3 Nightkill) Durandal
• andretimpa (Day 4 Lynch) Raiden Mei (Core of Binding)
• rob77dp (Night 4 Nightkill) Fu Hua
• DoubleCapitals (Day 5 Lynch) Seele Vollerei (Core of Void)
• killsdazombies (Night 5 Nightkill) Sin Mal
• Calindu (Night 5 Abyssal Flower) Liliya Olenyeva
• worldwideweb3 (Night 5 Red Thread of Fate) Bronya Zaychik
• Submachine (Day 6 Lynch) Yae Sakura

Night 6 has ended.

[kaempfer13]

ah shit its actually coffee. i was hoping this game would be over now.

[kaempfer13]

What I really dont understand is why sub recognized dc and andre were in a thunderdome and did not make a clear decision which one would be scum for sure, yet already put andre at n. It felt so much like he saw a lot of votes on dc already and wanted to bring andre through somehow.
I mean normally you sus both people in a thunderdome when you dont have an explicit reason to tr one.

[kaempfer13]

What, do you want me to lynch TorB? Depends on the request, im not signing a blankosheet.

No, it really is something simple, more humble. I just hoped you would say Derpclear granted after I flip. But you don’t even have to do this if I am mafia, or if you are.

And re:TorB, I no longer know who I think is more likely to be mafia. I checked my early game notes and I confused myself. You see, kae was checking older mafia games for reference, which would be a huge method act, something I do not think mafia would do. But later I also saw DC check a mafia game - though that was his own one. I do not know what to make of this.

Derpclear granted I suppose.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

I was more confused on why Sub was continuously looking for deep town (first rob77dp, then kaempfer13), seemingly neglecting Coffee and w3 in the process. It would have made perfect sense as a buildup for when you need a mislynch at the final three.

[kaempfer13]

I could have made a catalog on why i thought Sub was scum, but selfaffirming a tunnel at best achieves nothing

[kaempfer13]

Likely irrelevant rulequestion: The vote of a person targeted by core of death still counts towards the lynch, right?

[skyironsword]

Likely irrelevant rulequestion: The vote of a person targeted by core of death still counts towards the lynch, right?

Core of Death will not prevent its target from voting or cancel the target's vote.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

If mafia read the rules and wanted to use cores without being detected, they should have used it during Core of Binding effect (Cores could still be used that night). I didn't mention this earlier to not tip them off, but I think we can safely eliminate the chance of Core of Death showing up by now. But as I suspected, it is too late to have any effect on the outcome, regardless.

4 more days... I wouldn't mind speeding these phases up
Unless I get nightkilled, the only person that could have stopped me from voting Coffee Day 7 just died.

[kaempfer13]

I'll let coffeeditto finish analyzing 100 more pages, but mostly lean back in the meantime. Dont expect me to put in effort when the answer is so clear fmpov (sub haunting me from the grave:"you said that about me already"). Alright perhaps I should try taking another look, but the chance is 1% or lower that i change my mind.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

I was mostly trying to save a Coffee scum the trouble of doing so... x)
The results of these searches remind me of scum Sub last game. Completely devoid of specific scum theories, we're just getting "alignment-relevant" posts on every possible scum candidate. One usually has a feel on the alignment of each person involved and then try to find the posts that best match why you feel this way, but I'm not getting the impression Coffee is feeling any alignments, because he already knows them.