Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword

[kaempfer13]

well priority matters so raiden and rita ignore it, but they are all dead now

[Submachine]

However, I find it very uncomfortable that Coffee just went silent after suspicion went to other people, while www became more active and "in your face". I also don't remember if Coffee's solving was role solving (which is mostly NAI) or town solving.
 
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So what I think should happen now is www to start voting today and explain everything about his overly defensive behavior, while also revealing any plans he had this whole game and what he plans to do, create a readlist (which he never did in this game, by the way), and Coffee to also start being vocal and do actual solving.

I mentioned that i would be slightly less active after landing a job (which happened to not work out). However, i would like to point out that i have raised many points that were not addressed (these being over more than a couple posts). I would love for people to look back and interact with me on what my thoughts were on those, and i will be crafting a readslist soon based on dc flipping mafia (i think he gave up?). i should have it out relatively soon after the day is over.

I checked your posts but found nothing that is currently relevant to respond to. Asking them again would help.

[worldwideweb3]

I read the roles in a bit more detail. The thing that stood out the most (that I haven't seen discussed yet) is how much Emma deters scum from doing something that would lead to a role hunt (see me in the last game). Of course using it to role hunt would delay identifying Durandal and Fu Hua but it might still be worth it.

Just found this and was quite funny LOL

[worldwideweb3]

moe DC OA are mafia according to my rolls. Infact, as you can see, DC and OA came in both of my rolls :angry:

23:37:03] ‹worldwideweb3› (3d18) 15 + 4 + 15 = 34 ...!!
[23:37:07] ‹worldwideweb3› ew
[23:37:10] ‹worldwideweb3› (3d18) 18 + 4 + 15 = 37 ...✗

Can you appreciate how coincidental my roll was. DC/OA with that n0 raden, changing moes target. 10/10 vision.

[worldwideweb3]

    TheonlyrealBeef - emma plank
    iancudorinmarian - one dies, other dies too.
    worldwideweb3 - bronya
    kaempfer13 - how many abilities were used on targets
    Submachine - yae sakura
    killsdazombies - i forgot
    Coffeeditto - vig
    Calindu - flash

Our current night plan involves killing cal and one other right? Im not too sure if its a good plan. As it stands, i believe ian is very much town with cal also having a slight town lean. coffee/sub are in my immediate sus list. if coffee is maf, then they were all hard bussing each other lol. Im not too sure if we should even go with the night plan, if the intent is just to confirm ian as town. If it is to speed up the game, then we can possibly go with cal/sub. but if sub isnt the last mafia, this will cost us 3 towns in one night.
Nightplan: if sub town, we are at 4-1 start of phase. Lynch coffee (?), if town 2-1 start of next day phase. Lylo.
no nightplan: 6-1 start of phase. Lynch sub, if town, 4-1 start of next day phase. lynch coffee (?), if town 2-1 start of next day phase. Lylo.

The difference is instead of us killing cal, mafia picks an extra town they wanna nk, which could be cal or someone else. Is this maf right?

[iancudorinmarian]

Ah, yes, worldwidescum, let's change nightplan last minute to confuse everyone :thumbs_up:

[Submachine]

The nightplan makes ian conf town. Cal is necessary sacrifice for it to work, unless ian guesses the nightkill correctly.

By the way, it would not be difficult. The nigthkill will either be ian or kdz, so he would just need to link kdz with a random target if he does not follow the plan. But just because of this, maf might spare kdz tonight and go straight for ian.

Either way, I much prefer hitting the sack tonight rather than tomorrow. Www doesn't even know who the last mafia is, and he only said it now first that he thinks the maf is among Coffee/me. Credit denied.

[worldwideweb3]

Ah, yes, worldwidescum, let's change nightplan last minute to confuse everyone :thumbs_up:

i mean, i never said i agree with the nightplan, and will comment after DC's flip  As a scum, i wouldnt be interferring with killing cal and sub at all

[Submachine]

Anyway, endgame should be between Kae, Coffee, and TorB. Gl hf.

I have a conditional request for Kaempfer.

[worldwideweb3]

The nightplan makes ian conf town. Cal is necessary sacrifice for it to work, unless ian guesses the nightkill correctly.

By the way, it would not be difficult. The nigthkill will either be ian or kdz, so he would just need to link kdz with a random target if he does not follow the plan. But just because of this, maf might spare kdz tonight and go straight for ian.

Either way, I much prefer hitting the sack tonight rather than tomorrow. Www doesn't even know who the last mafia is, and he only said it now first that he thinks the maf is among Coffee/me. Credit denied.

ive said it numerous times over the course of this mafia that i sus coffee. andre and DCs interaction with ian makes me think he is town. cal would be a bit more active as a mafia imo, he doesnt come across as too scummy. Kae/torb have less chance of scum than you. So ofc its between you and coffee.
Ofcourse i dont know who the last mafia is, only a mafia would know that.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

The idea is to maximize the confirmed town ratio. Also, if no one will lynch me anyway, there is no guarantee I will not be NK-ed instead of confirmed town.

Cal probably is town, ian will be confirmed town and the biggest scum read will be eliminated. We can basically cross off 3 suspects that could be mafia instead of 1 that can be (additional mislynch opportunity) and 1 that cannot be (additional NK) compared to not going through with the plan.

[kaempfer13]

Anyway, endgame should be between Kae, Coffee, and TorB. Gl hf.

I have a conditional request for Kaempfer.

You probably have about 40 minutes to post the request.