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Please check all hours that would work for you as the deadline for each phase.

0 GMT
8 (5.7%)
1 GMT
7 (5%)
2 GMT
7 (5%)
3 GMT
7 (5%)
4 GMT
7 (5%)
5 GMT
4 (2.8%)
6 GMT
4 (2.8%)
7 GMT
4 (2.8%)
8 GMT
4 (2.8%)
9 GMT
5 (3.5%)
10 GMT
5 (3.5%)
11 GMT
4 (2.8%)
12 GMT
3 (2.1%)
13 GMT
2 (1.4%)
14 GMT
3 (2.1%)
15 GMT
4 (2.8%)
16 GMT
3 (2.1%)
17 GMT
5 (3.5%)
18 GMT
9 (6.4%)
19 GMT
9 (6.4%)
20 GMT
11 (7.8%)
21 GMT
9 (6.4%)
22 GMT
9 (6.4%)
23 GMT
8 (5.7%)

Total Members Voted: 16

Voting closed: August 09, 2020, 10:29:25 pm

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What kind of setup do you want to see next?

Run the standard setup with minor adjustments.
7 (26.9%)
Run a closed setup designed by Linkcat.
8 (30.8%)
Run a game with all Fate Eggs.
7 (26.9%)
Run an even sillier game just to mess around.
4 (15.4%)

Total Members Voted: 13

Voting closed: August 09, 2020, 10:47:45 pm

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What to do about Who's Online?

Allow free use of it.
9 (52.9%)
Ban use of it during the last couple hours of each phase.
3 (17.6%)
Ban use of it completely.
5 (29.4%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: August 09, 2020, 11:26:23 pm

Poll

Who played the best mafia?

Linkcat
1 (2.5%)
TheonlyrealBeef
16 (40%)
shockcannon
0 (0%)
PlayerOa
1 (2.5%)
iancudorinmarian
0 (0%)
worldwideweb3
1 (2.5%)
MasterWalks
0 (0%)
andretimpa
0 (0%)
dawn_to_dusk
0 (0%)
kaempfer13
6 (15%)
Submachine
0 (0%)
killsdazombies
0 (0%)
Coffeeditto
7 (17.5%)
rob77dp
3 (7.5%)
DoubleCapitals
1 (2.5%)
Calindu
0 (0%)
Naii_the_Baf
0 (0%)
moehrpi13
4 (10%)

Total Members Voted: 18

Voting closed: August 09, 2020, 10:51:45 pm

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300969#msg1300969
« Reply #1356 on: July 19, 2020, 09:25:57 am »
Kaemp, are you sure on role claim? Not only do we risk outing Fu Hua, if it doesn’t exist we are telling mafia that info
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300970#msg1300970
« Reply #1357 on: July 19, 2020, 09:28:17 am »
Ok, here's my current summary on the situation that people can refer to should I get killed.

My current guess on the scum team is, in order of likelihood:
  • andretimpa
  • DoubleCapitals
  • CoffeeDitto

If anyone not on that list has concrete evidence of a third mafia in favor of Coffee, my following plan for this night will be void. The plan is to give the entire auspected scum team a chance to redeem themselves. If I die, they failed at that and you should probably stick to lynching that team.

andretimpa: target moehrpi and Calindu
DoubleCapitals: target TheonlyrealBeef and Calindu
Coffeeditto: target Calindu
Calindu: use Flash Counter

The only way I can see us not lynching Coffee tomorrow is if someone has a concrete lead on a different scum member or he kills himself. Killing yourself instead of mislynch is a pro town move.

In this case, how does raden mei redirect work, if cal is targetted does the target move to moe or Torb or both?
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300971#msg1300971
« Reply #1358 on: July 19, 2020, 09:32:27 am »
Sticks to Calindu as sky clarified before.

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300972#msg1300972
« Reply #1359 on: July 19, 2020, 09:35:46 am »
Also I don’t think coffee dc is w/w becauze coffee was very much trying to kill DC earlier on iirc?
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300973#msg1300973
« Reply #1360 on: July 19, 2020, 09:38:18 am »
Then follow kaempfer13s plan and hope we get a different mafia team.

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300974#msg1300974
« Reply #1361 on: July 19, 2020, 09:42:53 am »
We/I did make a dumb mistake in hammering on Andre so early, shouldve waited to see if anyone comes to support him first. BUT, it is what it issss
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300975#msg1300975
« Reply #1362 on: July 19, 2020, 10:06:23 am »
I'd say w3 is the 3rd mafia member instead of Coffee.

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300976#msg1300976
« Reply #1363 on: July 19, 2020, 10:06:57 am »
Ok, here's my current summary on the situation that people can refer to should I get killed.

My current guess on the scum team is, in order of likelihood:
  • andretimpa
  • DoubleCapitals
  • CoffeeDitto

If anyone not on that list has concrete evidence of a third mafia in favor of Coffee, my following plan for this night will be void. The plan is to give the entire auspected scum team a chance to redeem themselves. If I die, they failed at that and you should probably stick to lynching that team.

andretimpa: target moehrpi and Calindu
DoubleCapitals: target TheonlyrealBeef and Calindu
Coffeeditto: target Calindu
Calindu: use Flash Counter

The only way I can see us not lynching Coffee tomorrow is if someone has a concrete lead on a different scum member or he kills himself. Killing yourself instead of mislynch is a pro town move.
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300977#msg1300977
« Reply #1364 on: July 19, 2020, 10:10:40 am »
what's my ability usage looking like tonight friends
Unless Raiden and Seele are both town, or all three of you are scum, you cannot rely on hitting the proper target. Do not use. We have a lot of info now, but I do not think we can rely on our roles to vig mafia this game.

I'm not sure if this is exactly how it works, but if he's redirected, it would be his first shot on anyone it redirects to but me, so it shouldn't vig them, right?
Right, but if Raiden/Seele are scum and Coffee is town, agreeing on a target allows Cecilia to be redirected onto you, killing you.


Well, he can probably target someone else at random then, and hope that the ability is not redirected. Also, if they use the ability like that, they can't redirect the NK as well, unless they have both Seele and Raiden.
N0 Raiden makes the most sense if you wanted Seele to get Raiden from my point of view. Your current scum reads are also Seele and Raiden, so I do not want to give a plausible excuse of being redirected.

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How would scum know DC was Seele again? Cocalia flipped town, so they should not have known?

Not know, just play the odds. DC posted it in his entry post.

Also, does everyone remember the timings of the clarifications of multiple Raidens intersecting? I think we can read something into this as well. Town DC asking for this clarification via pms does not seem very likely, and no one else should have known there were two Raidens at that point unless DC is scum. Galaxy brain read right there :silly:

I was suspicious after N0 but obviously did not know. My 'can confirm' after your reveal was not positive but it lined up perfectly with my observations.

Ok, here's my current summary on the situation that people can refer to should I get killed.

My current guess on the scum team is, in order of likelihood:
  • andretimpa
  • DoubleCapitals
  • CoffeeDitto

If anyone not on that list has concrete evidence of a third mafia in favor of Coffee, my following plan for this night will be void. The plan is to give the entire auspected scum team a chance to redeem themselves. If I die, they failed at that and you should probably stick to lynching that team.

andretimpa: target moehrpi and Calindu
DoubleCapitals: target TheonlyrealBeef and Calindu
Coffeeditto: target Calindu
Calindu: use Flash Counter

The only way I can see us not lynching Coffee tomorrow is if someone has a concrete lead on a different scum member or he kills himself. Killing yourself instead of mislynch is a pro town move.

I have a very different understanding of how the mechanics work. If mafia NK Cal in this scenario, you and I end up dead, Flash Counter does nothing. o0

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300978#msg1300978
« Reply #1365 on: July 19, 2020, 10:18:50 am »
Phantom Image: If both abilities target the exact same two players, they effectively cancel out and no swap will happen that night. If both abilities share one target, that player will be affected by any abilities targeting either of the other targets, as well as any abilities that would target them. (For example, if one Mei targets Players A and B, and another targets Players B and C, anything that targets one of those three players will target Player B instead.) This can result in an ability having fewer targets than before. (Continuing the previous example, if Kallen Kaslana targets both Players A and B with Red Thread of Fate, only Player B will be affected, which effectively does nothing.)
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300979#msg1300979
« Reply #1366 on: July 19, 2020, 10:28:05 am »
I didnt have the Impression that coffee/andre were w/w although i dont remember what made me think that also yh coffee/dc also  seems unlikely
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300980#msg1300980
« Reply #1367 on: July 19, 2020, 10:34:32 am »
I like the current developments. So, do I roleclaim now? Yes?
And we keep driving into the night
It's a late goodbye, such a late goodbye...

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