Well I got my thai food, but WOW a lot has been posted now. Okay, well... first off, thank you for revealing that torb, I was willing to hedge that if there was a raiden and they were mafia, we would at least be able to track them down. Figured the worst case was we lose our conf town for a conf mafia, but I see now I hadn't even considered there to be two raidens. Obv that plan can't work, but I must say I am still in favor of a cali kill anyway... Though obviously less so now, so I'll bow out to town consensus