Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword

[worldwideweb3]

it also means that the original raden targetted the seele, which is interesting...

[worldwideweb3]

Another thing, why not reveal it during the day that just went? Id have thought that the best time would either be during the day, or right at the end of this night so leaving the info incase you die

[moehrpi]

Well, that didn't go very well. Anyway, since I'm already considered town by most and am a juicy nightkill target, let me sweeten the deal: hard claim Emma Planck.
All right...
N0 target: Durandal, I'm keeping the result a secret for now.
He obviously played bad if you know his identity.
N2 target: Raiden Mei, there were TWO results. One of them must be Seele Vollerei.
Can confirm.
If you plan to out use Cecilia + Thread of Fate to kill two players, know that the chances of at least one being scum and purposefully interfering are extremely high.

TorB is vv now.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

There were no interesting lynch targets. I did not want mafia pranking around during the day to see which people I would bother to protect because they had power roles. Since there were plans to vig Cal and use Kallen to vig another and confirm ian, I felt it was extremely important to let people know just how shaky this plan is with two Raidens running amok. They could both be town, but the plan cannot be safely executed unless both their identities are revealed so you know whom to blame and lynch. But then we're outing two semi-docs, whom could both be town.

[moehrpi]

Another thing, why not reveal it during the day that just went? Id have thought that the best time would either be during the day, or right at the end of this night so leaving the info incase you die

This way you might get saved. But revealing before lynch sounds like the better option.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

One of the Raiden Meis could have diverted from Oa, too, if they wanted.

Also, notice this post that somehow nobody questioned why it was plural, lol.

[worldwideweb3]

Well, that didn't go very well. Anyway, since I'm already considered town by most and am a juicy nightkill target, let me sweeten the deal: hard claim Emma Planck.
N0 target: Durandal, I'm keeping the result a secret for now.
N2 target: Raiden Mei, there were TWO results. One of them must be Seele Vollerei.
If you plan to out use Cecilia + Thread of Fate to kill two players, know that the chances of at least one being scum and purposefully interfering are extremely high.

I'm going to get food right now, but this is interesting. Very interesting. Thank you torb. Hopefully someone sends you a health checkup, but we dont even know if the doctor is in.

There are at least two, the Raiden Mei and Seele Vollerei.

I wonder, wouldnt it be worth asking everyone to roleclaim and then use this as the slip?

What about this?

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Spoiler for quote:

Well, that didn't go very well. Anyway, since I'm already considered town by most and am a juicy nightkill target, let me sweeten the deal: hard claim Emma Planck.
N0 target: Durandal, I'm keeping the result a secret for now.
N2 target: Raiden Mei, there were TWO results. One of them must be Seele Vollerei.
If you plan to out use Cecilia + Thread of Fate to kill two players, know that the chances of at least one being scum and purposefully interfering are extremely high.

I'm going to get food right now, but this is interesting. Very interesting. Thank you torb. Hopefully someone sends you a health checkup, but we dont even know if the doctor is in.

There are at least two, the Raiden Mei and Seele Vollerei.

I wonder, wouldnt it be worth asking everyone to roleclaim and then use this as the slip?

What about this?

They wouldn't lie about their roles now that they've already been outed. But depending on whom claims when, the others still have options to choose from and lie. I don't think publicly outing cop and 2-3 medics along with myself is the best idea. Especially when you don't know their alignment. Allows mafia to just pick off the ones that are not mafia.

[iancudorinmarian]

So what's the consensus about my ability usage tonight? Do I target two people "at random"?

[worldwideweb3]

Spoiler for quote:

Well, that didn't go very well. Anyway, since I'm already considered town by most and am a juicy nightkill target, let me sweeten the deal: hard claim Emma Planck.
N0 target: Durandal, I'm keeping the result a secret for now.
N2 target: Raiden Mei, there were TWO results. One of them must be Seele Vollerei.
If you plan to out use Cecilia + Thread of Fate to kill two players, know that the chances of at least one being scum and purposefully interfering are extremely high.

I'm going to get food right now, but this is interesting. Very interesting. Thank you torb. Hopefully someone sends you a health checkup, but we dont even know if the doctor is in.

There are at least two, the Raiden Mei and Seele Vollerei.

I wonder, wouldnt it be worth asking everyone to roleclaim and then use this as the slip?

What about this?

They wouldn't lie about their roles now that they've already been outed. But depending on whom claims when, the others still have options to choose from and lie. I don't think publicly outing cop and 2-3 medics along with myself is the best idea. Especially when you don't know their alignment. Allows mafia to just pick off the ones that are not mafia.

no not now, i meant why not ask for a role claim before reveal :/

[moehrpi]

Spoiler for quote:

Well, that didn't go very well. Anyway, since I'm already considered town by most and am a juicy nightkill target, let me sweeten the deal: hard claim Emma Planck.
N0 target: Durandal, I'm keeping the result a secret for now.
N2 target: Raiden Mei, there were TWO results. One of them must be Seele Vollerei.
If you plan to out use Cecilia + Thread of Fate to kill two players, know that the chances of at least one being scum and purposefully interfering are extremely high.

I'm going to get food right now, but this is interesting. Very interesting. Thank you torb. Hopefully someone sends you a health checkup, but we dont even know if the doctor is in.

There are at least two, the Raiden Mei and Seele Vollerei.

I wonder, wouldnt it be worth asking everyone to roleclaim and then use this as the slip?

What about this?

They wouldn't lie about their roles now that they've already been outed. But depending on whom claims when, the others still have options to choose from and lie. I don't think publicly outing cop and 2-3 medics along with myself is the best idea. Especially when you don't know their alignment. Allows mafia to just pick off the ones that are not mafia.

Would mafia give themselves a second Raiden? I didn't liek the thought from mafia perspective but there aren't too many other roles that you want to have. If not there is at least one town Raiden / semi-doc.

I trust ian to be town, so I want him to use his ability.

[kaempfer13]

So what's the consensus about my ability usage tonight? Do I target two people "at random"?

We should  probably hold a nightly lynchvote for coffees target if the result is cal we can ask you  to target cal+someone, else uae it on targets at your own disgression