Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword

[killsdazombies]

How can no one think coffee is mafia using his ability to pick off inactives while being able to use the excuse of them being inactive to get away with it? How can he literally play scummy but still get no attention?
If hes so itchy to use his ability, why not hit someone who is actually likely to be scum? maybe someone on everyones scumreads? Why hasent he killed me so town doesnt waste time on another lynch?

Well, as time goes on being inactive gets more and more suspicious, but more than that is that its easy to push for lynches on inactives, its not like they can really defend themselves. So the question is would we rather spend a day phase killing inactives, or would we rather it be over with at night? Idk, thats really what I wanted to open discussion to. For this exact moment with coffee, we can use that vig shot to confirm that Ian can target two people other then himself, and have a now confirmed town pick someone to kill, and still kill coffee later if we want.

For context, we are at 3/13 right now.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Why hasent he killed me so town doesnt waste time on another lynch?

In order to vig you, he needs two nights. On N0, he could not have known that town would be lynch voting you. In fact, using his ability on you N1 might even look bad since if we follow the reasoning of not lynching people that are one night away from getting vigged anyway, he could just leave his mafiabuddies in purgatory without ever actually killing them off (if he is mafia). If they DO get lynched, well that's an ability use entirely wasted. We're still missing his lynch vote, but he might have been intent to lynch you anyway.

[Submachine]

About Coffee, I townread him, because I would have vigged dawn too if I had the chance. That dawn turned out to be town is mere unfortunate, but I can’t scumread him for it.

[Coffeeditto]

I got targeted by Coffee last night.

Also, I find it strange that he's not more heavily scumread for the vig shot on N1 on dawn. Rob was much more scumread for his vig shot.
Coffee waited a long time to reveal, posting multiple times between the reveal and him claiming, despite people discussing in the thread about wanting a reveal. He also shot someone that wasn't really scumread at that point and started posting more.

The possibility of him getting 2 free kills and getting away with it is really bad for town. It's even worse if mafia actually has Durandal, like it's being discussed, since Coffee could line up 2 kills, take 1 and get Durandaled to be immune the next day and take another one the following night.

I feel bad for voting alongside my scumread MW, but I scumread Coffee more as it stands.

MasterWalks (2) - TheonlyrealBeef, rob77dp
Coffeeditto (2) - MasterWalks, Calindu

If I killed you, people would know I used my ability to kill you. I can also just not use it tonight, but I repeatedly asked what I should do with my ability last night and you didn't provide any input, that doesn't resonate with me. I would have preffered you said that to me /before/ it was already too late. I have posted my reason for claiming when I did, and right now, this feels a lot like and OMGUS vote.

How can no one think coffee is mafia using his ability to pick off inactives while being able to use the excuse of them being inactive to get away with it? How can he literally play scummy but still get no attention?
If hes so itchy to use his ability, why not hit someone who is actually likely to be scum? maybe someone on everyones scumreads? Why hasent he killed me so town doesnt waste time on another lynch?

I'm not "itchy" to use it, and I won't use it tonight if that's what we agree on. You can't argue that I'm using it on not scummy people because scumreads are subjective and although I dislike that you're pushing on me so heavily, I can't be arsed to believe you are more scum than a non-contributing Calindu or a slippery DC. Like I said, I don't have to hit anyone twice and I don't want to if they come out with information that's helpful or beneficial for the town instead of coasting.




Sub - Glad to have you back in the game. : )

[andretimpa]

I'll put my money where my mouth is

that is a pretty terrible read explanation by MW for his U-turn townread on me.......... maybe you should have voted on a viable wagon at EOD2 such as MW's where Coffee and I were looking for takers at EOD? 

Yeah, I was tunelling on ian and needed some time to think over his claim. For D3 I'm willing to vote on my n- reads and MW is the most solid one I have.

MasterWalks (4) - TheonlyrealBeef, rob77dp, iancudorinmarian, andretimpa
Coffeeditto (2) - MasterWalks, Calindu
Submachine (1) - Submachine
iancudorinmarian (1) - worldwideweb3


My trials match with asdw will intersect a bit with EOD. I'll try to keep an eye on the thread, but some activity earlier would be appreciated.

[Coffeeditto]

I wanted to say that I started a job yesterday and have work starting 1.5 hrs before deadline so I will also not be here for EoD but I will vote before then. Something tells me my attempts at a DC bandwagon won't gain traction

[worldwideweb3]

Sub, don’t end up voting yourself. I’d rather you vote someone else

[moehrpi]

Well, I expected a lot more activity but today is really slow. Going to be around for EOD this time.

Sub, don’t end up voting yourself. I’d rather you vote someone else

I second this.

I don't feel too hot for a MW lynch anymore. I'm not entirely opposed and to me it's the best option out of those voted so far but I'll go with my bigger scumread - more like stronger suspicion.

MasterWalks (4) - TheonlyrealBeef, rob77dp, iancudorinmarian, andretimpa
Coffeeditto (2) - MasterWalks, Calindu
Submachine (1) - Submachine
iancudorinmarian (1) - worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (1) - moehrpi

I haven't seen anything that makes me townread him with a high volume of posts.

[worldwideweb3]

[kaempfer13]

Oof, I overslept and thats pretty much all the time I had for this game today, as Im glued to my family today. With that little activity across the board can we ask for an Extension?

[Coffeeditto]

i don’t think that people just not being here is a good enough reason to warrant an extension, but i’m not the host.

that being said, I have to go now, so I am parking my vote here but i might be able to move it in a very small period of time later if i slip to the restroom or something.

MasterWalks (4) - TheonlyrealBeef, rob77dp, iancudorinmarian, andretimpa
Coffeeditto (2) - MasterWalks, Calindu
Submachine (1) - Submachine
iancudorinmarian (1) - worldwideweb3
worldwideweb3 (2) - moehrpi, Coffeeditto

[worldwideweb3]