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Please check all hours that would work for you as the deadline for each phase.

0 GMT
8 (5.7%)
1 GMT
7 (5%)
2 GMT
7 (5%)
3 GMT
7 (5%)
4 GMT
7 (5%)
5 GMT
4 (2.8%)
6 GMT
4 (2.8%)
7 GMT
4 (2.8%)
8 GMT
4 (2.8%)
9 GMT
5 (3.5%)
10 GMT
5 (3.5%)
11 GMT
4 (2.8%)
12 GMT
3 (2.1%)
13 GMT
2 (1.4%)
14 GMT
3 (2.1%)
15 GMT
4 (2.8%)
16 GMT
3 (2.1%)
17 GMT
5 (3.5%)
18 GMT
9 (6.4%)
19 GMT
9 (6.4%)
20 GMT
11 (7.8%)
21 GMT
9 (6.4%)
22 GMT
9 (6.4%)
23 GMT
8 (5.7%)

Total Members Voted: 16

Voting closed: August 09, 2020, 10:29:25 pm

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What kind of setup do you want to see next?

Run the standard setup with minor adjustments.
7 (26.9%)
Run a closed setup designed by Linkcat.
8 (30.8%)
Run a game with all Fate Eggs.
7 (26.9%)
Run an even sillier game just to mess around.
4 (15.4%)

Total Members Voted: 13

Voting closed: August 09, 2020, 10:47:45 pm

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What to do about Who's Online?

Allow free use of it.
9 (52.9%)
Ban use of it during the last couple hours of each phase.
3 (17.6%)
Ban use of it completely.
5 (29.4%)

Total Members Voted: 17

Voting closed: August 09, 2020, 11:26:23 pm

Poll

Who played the best mafia?

Linkcat
1 (2.5%)
TheonlyrealBeef
16 (40%)
shockcannon
0 (0%)
PlayerOa
1 (2.5%)
iancudorinmarian
0 (0%)
worldwideweb3
1 (2.5%)
MasterWalks
0 (0%)
andretimpa
0 (0%)
dawn_to_dusk
0 (0%)
kaempfer13
6 (15%)
Submachine
0 (0%)
killsdazombies
0 (0%)
Coffeeditto
7 (17.5%)
rob77dp
3 (7.5%)
DoubleCapitals
1 (2.5%)
Calindu
0 (0%)
Naii_the_Baf
0 (0%)
moehrpi13
4 (10%)

Total Members Voted: 18

Voting closed: August 09, 2020, 10:51:45 pm

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300794#msg1300794
« Reply #1212 on: July 17, 2020, 05:41:58 am »
The longer I monologue the less towncred I want to give coffe/rob for naai safe. Still, robs initial push on coffee makes them unlikely w/w at least
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300795#msg1300795
« Reply #1213 on: July 17, 2020, 07:37:07 am »
I got targeted by Coffee last night.

Also, I find it strange that he's not more heavily scumread for the vig shot on N1 on dawn. Rob was much more scumread for his vig shot.
Coffee waited a long time to reveal, posting multiple times between the reveal and him claiming, despite people discussing in the thread about wanting a reveal. He also shot someone that wasn't really scumread at that point and started posting more.

The possibility of him getting 2 free kills and getting away with it is really bad for town. It's even worse if mafia actually has Durandal, like it's being discussed, since Coffee could line up 2 kills, take 1 and get Durandaled to be immune the next day and take another one the following night.

I feel bad for voting alongside my scumread MW, but I scumread Coffee more as it stands.

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300797#msg1300797
« Reply #1214 on: July 17, 2020, 09:19:26 am »
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With so much pushing towards MW, you guys must be onto something. w3 still top scum lean for me though, but it seems he's currently U N L Y N C H A B L E for some reason.

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300798#msg1300798
« Reply #1215 on: July 17, 2020, 09:26:22 am »
With so much pushing towards MW, you guys must be onto something.

What is this?

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300799#msg1300799
« Reply #1216 on: July 17, 2020, 10:22:43 am »
With so much pushing towards MW, you guys must be onto something.

What is this?
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300800#msg1300800
« Reply #1217 on: July 17, 2020, 10:51:45 am »
Ugh, its phoneposting only for the rest of the weekend. Sorry mw, noone cares about you, but i just cant be arsed to edit votecounts just for you. I'm happy once I managed a readlist at all.
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300810#msg1300810
« Reply #1218 on: July 17, 2020, 06:57:19 pm »
Awkward timing, but I'm back.~ I had a rough week with work and health, sorry to make everyone wait.

I am 50 pages behind, so I would appreciate if someone summarized what has been going on.

Also, I realize I missed a day without voting, so in case I am Bronya with 2 voting power (I am not), I'm parking my vote on myself to reset it to 1.

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300811#msg1300811
« Reply #1219 on: July 17, 2020, 07:09:39 pm »
Awkward timing, but I'm back.~ I had a rough week with work and health, sorry to make everyone wait.

I am 50 pages behind, so I would appreciate if someone summarized what has been going on.

Also, I realize I missed a day without voting, so in case I am Bronya with 2 voting power (I am not), I'm parking my vote on myself to reset it to 1.

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300816#msg1300816
« Reply #1220 on: July 17, 2020, 10:31:39 pm »
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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300818#msg1300818
« Reply #1221 on: July 18, 2020, 12:12:53 am »
I've been trying to work up the energy to post /anything/ today, so I'm going to give a simple read list before I pass out. Sorry I know I should make use of my relative immortality, but I am physically exhausted. I'll be on tomorrow and try and analyze some posts individually. Also vote

TheonlyrealBeef - (v) - was a "Tie breaker" day 1. At first, I disliked this heavily, it felt like an easy way to enforce a kill, but I think we would have probably no lynched, and frankly I think we would be in a much worse place without said kill. I also find myself agreeing with most of their statements and actions.

iancudorinmarian - (???) - Can be hard confirmed, which isn't something to turn our noses up at. Unsure if we want to make a plan for this for the nightphase, or if we just take them out on our own.

moehrpi - (n+) - Very assertive/aggressive. Not sure what I make of it. It is nice however to see a departure from the rather passive play we saw from moe last game. Making lots of attempts to read and solve.

Coffeeditto - (n+) - Killed d2d, which I dont think was really a bad thing. Obv there was a town consensus not to kill d2d, and that flew in the face of the towns "choice". That being said, having a vig who kills low posters isnt the worst thing in the world to me. Further I can see a town making the plays coffee has made, including feigning to save linkcat. It set a WIFOM to the mafia, and didn't actually dissuade the real doc from targeting link. Ive been dancing between N and N+

kaempfer13 - (? , probably n+) - Idk what to think about kae ever. I can't tell if they are insane, or the only sane person. Theyll post 9 times in a row that make no sense, then say exactly what im thinking.

MasterWalks - (n) - I don't doubt that they could be mafia, but I just dont see the team, and I'm worried for some of you its just a policy lynch.

Submachine - (n) - has been mia for a few days, so we've missed a lot of potential content from sub. before their disappearance I was N+ on them I think, but the mia has really put some concern in my heart. N until they catch up and can interact.

DoubleCapitals - (n) - I just dont see the scum team here, unless its w3? Idk. Honestly, at this rate they are a mislynch in waiting, since there are people with mild sus on them and they cant defend themselves at EoD.

rob77dp - (n-) - While I'm sure my innate mistrust of rob is coming in here, they are a smarty. I dont think they would make as many derps as they have been, and further I think rob is trying to downplay his usefulness/mafia prowess.

Calindu - (n-) - They have effectively stated we wont get any additional info out of them, and we wont get much more activity. They claim to have been tagged by coffee, and I dont know if I oppose killing them via coffee. We'll probably have to poe them at some point anyway, its too easy for scum to play around with low posters

worldwideweb3 - (n-) - Obviously I know w3 has been pushing a town (me) but obviously none of you can confirm I am without a doubt town. Further beyond this, I notice www3 is on the attack quite a bit in general, they are always pushing something, but they defended dc? Idk what to make of it all. Everything they've said has felt a little sour, hence my previous apathy to their continued life.

andretimpa - (n-) - I dislike how they have sorta slipped under the radar, I dont think I've seen many people directly interact with timpa, nor has timpa really said anything decisive, at least not that rings a bell to me. Feel free to point out anything o nthat I've missed. Further, I disliked how they n-'d me with a sort of flimsy reasoning right after rob did. It looked like someone trying to help someone else push a kill. I just cant shake this sus of them. In their defense however, they have been posting a lot more then last game

If you disagree or question anything I've said about someone just let me know and we can flush it out. I'm pretty out of it as I said so theres always room for mistake or misunderstanding.

Correction: Sub voted on themselves

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iancudorinmarian (1) - worldwideweb3

I'll still be checking the thread and stuff, and I'll try and respond to anything directed at me as quick as I can. Its just one of those days ya'll know?

IMO letting coffee live today so that cali can get got sounds like a reasonable strat. Plus we can use it with ian to confirm, since we can use the already loaded vig kill on cali to force the thread of fate kill, without having to use a much more taxing vig ability. Of course, this plan then means ian would probably be a likely NK target.

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300820#msg1300820
« Reply #1222 on: July 18, 2020, 12:59:46 am »
@kdz

About my read on you, I'm not against bread, just put something together with the bread :P. The post you just made is the kind of thing I felt was missing. Also, the scum bump I gave you is consistent with the ones I gave to Cal and MW, I wasn't singling you out (tho the wording was indeed influenced by rob).

About your other scumleans:
  • I agree that keeping some distrust of rob is healthy, it just hasn't got to the point I'm scumleaning him. Do you think his derps could be him turning a blind eye to things that could out his team?
  • Your thoughts on Cal align with my reads post a lot
  • I started scumleaning w3, but dropped it because of EOD1, where he kept defending DC. Tho in EOD2 we have this

    iancudorinmarian (3) - andretimpa, killsdazombies, PlayerOa
    DoubleCapitals (1) - Coffeeditto
    rob77dp (1) - MasterWalks
    worldwideweb3 (4) - iancudorinmarian, Naii_the_Baf, TheonlyrealBeef, rob77dp
    Naii_the_Baf (1) - worldwideweb3
    MasterWalks (4) - Calindu, DoubleCapitals, moehrpi, kaempfer13

    Naiis vote on me is the only one i feel sketchy on my wagon. Cal and DC are other good targets imo.
    where he suggests voting on DC. Not enough for a scumlean (people are allowed to change opinion :silly:) but raises an eyebrow for me

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Re: Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=67869.msg1300821#msg1300821
« Reply #1223 on: July 18, 2020, 02:42:03 am »
How can no one think coffee is mafia using his ability to pick off inactives while being able to use the excuse of them being inactive to get away with it? How can he literally play scummy but still get no attention?
If hes so itchy to use his ability, why not hit someone who is actually likely to be scum? maybe someone on everyones scumreads? Why hasent he killed me so town doesnt waste time on another lynch?
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