Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword

[Coffeeditto]

to be honest, i could not follow these last few posts about what the pan for tonight is. i have no guidance on what to doand would love input on if i should use my ability tonight and also if i should out that target or not.

[kaempfer13]

def use it; if you're gonna decide yourself anyway dont telegraph it beforehand, if you want to target a consensus target... well its kinda late for that, but say so asap

[TheonlyrealBeef]

I would not trust being targeted and expect the same of any other target. If they are town leans from my point of view, I will support them in lynching Coffee in order to save another town becoming victim.

[rob77dp]

Idk why no one wants to lynch kills/naii/cal ): Just kinda feel we will end up lynching a town again

[Coffeeditto]

I would not trust being targeted and expect the same of any other target. If they are town leans from my point of view, I will support them in lynching Coffee in order to save another town becoming victim.

then tell me who you suggest instead of claiming i’m maf if i hit the townreads you haven’t posted in a while please

[Coffeeditto]

i do want a consensus and I would say it’s not too late as we have over 8 hours until end of day, yes?

[iancudorinmarian]

Actually killing 2 town to make a town unlynchable is worth it so long as there are more than 3times as many villagers as scum, which is still the case (for simplicity if we scale it up and let the mod kill 2 random town for a modconfirmed town we would be left with 3 clear town, 1 unclear town and 3 scum, so so long as noone misslynches the unclear town the game is solved). Combine that with the fact that town vigs dont always miss and its worth going for.
Ian did you use your ability n1 or n0? I always get confused between those 2 myself, so i had assumed you used your ability asap.

N1. There was no NK on N0.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

I would not trust being targeted and expect the same of any other target. If they are town leans from my point of view, I will support them in lynching Coffee in order to save another town becoming victim.

then tell me who you suggest instead of claiming i’m maf if i hit the townreads you haven’t posted in a while please

Hmmm... if something happened to Sub irl he'd get modkilled, making him a bad target. I suppose it's mostly Oa, Durandal and myself that I would mind you targeting, but you probably don't know who Durandal is

MasterWalks, DoubleCapitals and Calindu come to mind as a top3.

[worldwideweb3]

I don’t recommend targeting anyone right now. If coffee is maf, he can lynch that person later on, when we think we have another day and we won’t. I would wait until we have found some decent scum reads

[rob77dp]

I don’t recommend targeting anyone right now. If coffee is maf, he can lynch that person later on, when we think we have another day and we won’t. I would wait until we have found some decent scum reads

YOU don't have any "decent scum reads"... speak for yourself on that mate. Ian if you're town I'd say you should be thinking about targeting yourself and a scum read if you think you might get popped that night OR a high scum read and town read that you think might get popped that night if you feel safe... IF you really think you need to be targeting at all, that is.

Also, ian claim still making sense as town moves\targets for him if true. Of course he could be lying, but in that case I'll say that his lies make sense too for falling town (sometimes a scum's lies seem off or weird for a town to do\claim, and I don't get that sense here with ian).

Coffee (no offense eh) I don't think has the personality that shoots a town!dawn right out of the gate like that if he is scum... I can see town coffee arriving at the conclusion that it COULD have +EV for town since a town coffee wouldn't know if he's going to get heat (town dawn) or lock status (scum dawn) before the flip.

At this point I'm believing ian and coffee claims and leaning town on them.

I'm also fairly unconvinced by kdz defense and activity\interaction yesterday... Scum lean for me there. Would consider possibly voting there tomorrow. Or DC. Or MW. Outside shoot I might be ok voting on even Cal or moe (!gasp!).

[worldwideweb3]

If you have any decent scum reads, feel free to share. We’ve lost 4 towns so far, 5 after the night most likely. Our “scum reads” clearly haven’t been successful so far, and I do not want to put a kill in coffees hands at this stage, on a person that we are not sure if mafia or not.

[rob77dp]

Also also-- no specifics should be given or discussed but I suggest doc aims about high town reads Oa \ TorB \ ?ian?coffee? (If you're believing the claim(s) that is)

And investigative roles I suggest aim into the POE among DC \ MW \ Cal \ www3 \ ?moe? \ ?ian?coffee? (claim disbelief dependent).