Elements Mafia 74 - by skyironsword

[Coffeeditto]

Regarding Cecilia talk: should we try to find a consensus on role usage for next night? One that is received as such? Mislynch is sure to leave some people bloodthirsty.

oh wait you’re right
This boils down to, do we trust Coffee not to double-tap in N3? Even if he goes along with our choice in N2?

There’s an option of me not using my ability at all any more. If I do, whoever I hit with it could out it as me going against the town’s CLEAR AND DISTINCTIVE wishes.

Unless Sub has actually disappeared for a more extended period of time and you tap him the next two nights and he isn't around to out?? Actually, that is a worrisome thought on multiple fronts...


SUB - come back, it's EOD, september hasn't started so we're not waiting for it to end to wake you up either.

wouldn't Sub get modkilled in this case?

Not in only 2 phases.

D2/N2/D3/N3 ?

that looks like 4 to me

[Coffeeditto]

Regarding Cecilia talk: should we try to find a consensus on role usage for next night? One that is received as such? Mislynch is sure to leave some people bloodthirsty.

oh wait you’re right
This boils down to, do we trust Coffee not to double-tap in N3? Even if he goes along with our choice in N2?

There’s an option of me not using my ability at all any more. If I do, whoever I hit with it could out it as me going against the town’s CLEAR AND DISTINCTIVE wishes.

Unless Sub has actually disappeared for a more extended period of time and you tap him the next two nights and he isn't around to out?? Actually, that is a worrisome thought on multiple fronts...


SUB - come back, it's EOD, september hasn't started so we're not waiting for it to end to wake you up either.

wouldn't Sub get modkilled in this case?

Not in only 2 phases.

D2/N2/D3/N3 ?

that looks like 4 to me

oh wait you’re right

ebwop

[rob77dp]

Regarding Cecilia talk: should we try to find a consensus on role usage for next night? One that is received as such? Mislynch is sure to leave some people bloodthirsty.

This boils down to, do we trust Coffee not to double-tap in N3? Even if he goes along with our choice in N2?

There’s an option of me not using my ability at all any more. If I do, whoever I hit with it could out it as me going against the town’s CLEAR AND DISTINCTIVE wishes.

Unless Sub has actually disappeared for a more extended period of time and you tap him the next two nights and he isn't around to out?? Actually, that is a worrisome thought on multiple fronts...


SUB - come back, it's EOD, september hasn't started so we're not waiting for it to end to wake you up either.

wouldn't Sub get modkilled in this case?

That's a great point timpa. So worrisome front #1 resolved - Sub is game-handled by rule if he is AWOL. Front #2 is still hoping he's OK.

[andretimpa]

I second front #2, it's not like him to go awol like that

Will be on phone until 30 min to EOD btw

[moehrpi]

Regarding Cecilia talk: should we try to find a consensus on role usage for next night? One that is received as such? Mislynch is sure to leave some people bloodthirsty.

This boils down to, do we trust Coffee not to double-tap in N3? Even if he goes along with our choice in N2?

This boils down to, do we let Coffee investigate someone (we might have agreed upon) without lynching him?

If you consider Coffee scum, analyze whom his likely mafia partners would be, either having Coffee target them or not use ability at all. That is my point of view. I have not really analyzed this part yet, so I cannot give an opinion on preferred targets now. Coffee not having had lynch wagons so far gives me very little to base possible mafia buddies on.

Good idea but fails in practice for N2 bar EOD crazies.

I guess I like to have him around and only act on majority voting or the likes. Naturally, he is on a relatively short leash.

[iancudorinmarian]

I hard claim Kallen Kaslana.

I don't expect this to make you want to not lynch me, quite the opposite, actually, but I guess I'll just give you a little bit of info to have into consideration.

[moehrpi]

I hard claim Kallen Kaslana.

I don't expect this to make you want to not lynch me, quite the opposite, actually, but I guess I'll just give you a little bit of info to have into consideration.

This should be easy to confirm. There are roles that can check who you targeted, no?

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Actually, Kallen Kaslana has the unique feature of only being able to target two targets other than yourself if you are not mafia, otherwise you are forced to target yourself. Now for the important part of how to verify that.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Oh, I know! Couldn't Lieserl Einstein target ian while he uses his ability on two targets that are not himself?

[Coffeeditto]

Oh, I know! Couldn't Lieserl Einstein target ian while he uses his ability on two targets that are not himself?

No, because what if he just doesn’t use his ability?

[iancudorinmarian]

For reference, I used by ability N1 on w3 and TorB

[TheonlyrealBeef]

But then we would still not know whether ian actually used his ability, hrmmm...

Oh, I know! Couldn't Lieserl Einstein target ian while he uses his ability on two targets that are not himself?

No, because what if he just doesn’t use his ability?

And there comes the Coffee ninja post while I realize this.
And Frederica Tesla is moot in case he uses a Honkai Core instead.

For reference, I used by ability N1 on w3 and TorB

o.O